Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Who Laments on How He'd Run HLA.... Aspen Style
TheWho:
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Wow, thanks for the information, I think. Probably a good guess that you are not employed in any form of teaching capacity.
If the school has 160 kids there is no way they are going to hire 40 master level counselors (in my opinion). This would be way over kill in the counseling department. The way I read it is each group (13 kids) is assigned 2 master level counselors and under these counselors would be assistant counselors. The master leveled counselors would oversee more than one group, while the assistant counselors would be more one-on one. This would make more sense from a financial and therapeutic stand point. I cant see why HLA would want to dedicate 2 MS to a group of 13 when they have assistants to help them. So each group would have 2 counselors, but the counselors would have more than 1 group.
I am not saying this is how it is done, but I would have the master leveled counselors overseeing more than one group with the assistance of the undergraduates , if the standards allowed.
Does anyone have any state or federal guide lines that may shed some more light on this?
So to summerize my thoughts:
1) There is a little disagreement on the interpretation of the counseling oversight, which is understandable based on the wording.
2) They don’t appear to be violating any standards.
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Anonymous:
the who, you're an idiot. dont talk about hla when you dont know anything about it.
the "assistant counselors" are not actually counselors. they dont do any counseling whatsoever. they are essentially the nannies for the student body. their job consists of escorting kids around either in groups or individually, watching them as they do their day to day business, stand in the hallways during school hours, enforce rules, write people up, but usually it just involves standing around and taking orders over a radio.
HLA claims to have counselors with masters level degrees, 2 per peer group, 2 for every 13-15 kids. exept only about half had masters level degrees, and most counselors had at least two peer groups.
Anonymous:
and HLA does not have 160 students. They have around 50 students these days.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---the who, you're an idiot. dont talk about hla when you dont know anything about it.
the "assistant counselors" are not actually counselors. they dont do any counseling whatsoever. they are essentially the nannies for the student body. their job consists of escorting kids around either in groups or individually, watching them as they do their day to day business, stand in the hallways during school hours, enforce rules, write people up, but usually it just involves standing around and taking orders over a radio.
HLA claims to have counselors with masters level degrees, 2 per peer group, 2 for every 13-15 kids. exept only about half had masters level degrees, and most counselors had at least two peer groups.
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Like it was mentioned above. The master leveled counselors may have oversight over more than one group while they get assistance from counselors with Bachelor’s degrees.
I think we can argue about this all day, but the bottom line is that HLA meets and exceeds all state and federal requirements in this area. It appears you are hung up on the wording.
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Troll Control:
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god, you are a moron. if hla met or exceeded any standards they wouldn't have been forced to LICENSE. running an unlicensed treatment center is only ONE of the instances in which HLA FAILED to meet or exceed standards.
you obviously know nothing of "state and federal requirements" or you wouldn't spout this OBVIOUS LIE. is telling blatant lies part of "adding value and balance"?
FACT: HLA was and is in violation of several state and federal regulations and has been given 6 months by ORS to either MEET or EXCEED their various deficiencies or CLOSE UP SHOP.
whom should readers believe, the ORS and CPS files showing dozens of violations at HLA and Ridge Creek, or the noted prvaricator and asshole, TheWho?
i'll stick with the oversight agencies who have handed down severe sanctions on HLA and Ridge Creek based on facts gathered from INVESTIGATIONS, nto some lunatic program pimp who claims to be bias neutral while promoting programs with LIES.
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