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Anonymous:
I think Johnny Ringo has had a lobotomy.

Anonymous:
This began as one of the most civilized discussions I have witnessed on this slanderous site.  However, we continue to go back to baseless claims of broken promises, cruelty, abuse, neglect, and finally personal attacks.

I could play this same game.  I could come on here everyday and say Guest you're and idiot.  But I don't.  What I do is take each fact you produce and argue it logically.  This may in fact prove you to be an idiot but I don't have to slander, make personal attacks or offer baseless claims.

I do how ever apologize for using logic now that I understand that many of you have severe learning disabilities.  I just can't resort to, "I know you are, but what are you?"

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Johnny Ringo"" ---- The teaching faculty at HLA hold a Bachelor to a Doctorate level degree in education.

GAC requires teachers to have at least a Bachelor's level education.  HLA teachers have at least a Bachelor's level education.

- Full time nurse on staff.

I am aware of very few instances where a full time nurse has not been on staff.  These typically have been between one nurse leaving and another being hired.  Be careful that you are not reading this as RN versus LPN, however.

- An estimated 15% of Hidden Lake Academy students have been diagnosed with a learning disorder and have an Individual Education Plan in place.

See no issues here, though I am unfamiliar with the statistics.

- An Individualized Therapeutic Plan, including clinical treatment goals, is maintained and revised by the clinical team throughout the enrollment of the student.

Students do not only have a therapeutic treatment plan based on the curriculum but also an individualized plan that is designed around the presenting problems.

- All Counseling Staff are full-time and are clinically trained, holding a Master’s Degree or higher.

All counselors work full-time, have completed some form of clinical training and hold a master's degree or higher.

- Parents are informed of and involved in their child’s therapeutic work through the program via monthly written Counselor Reports, weekly update calls from the child’s Counselor.

Monthly reports were replace by Element Reports to reduce redunancy.  Weekly calls are made to parents until Wind Element when they become bi-weekly.

- Counselors receive weekly supervision by Doctoral and licensed Staff. In addition, biweekly therapeutic staffings are held to develop specific treatment goals and interventions for each student.

Counselor's do recieve supervision by licesed LPC and/or Doctoral staff.  Be careful that you are not reading this as licensed LPC's and Licensed Ph.D/Psy.D's.  All supervision is also overseen by Dr. Buccellato who possess a license.  Treatment plans are updated during supervision and or at weekly counselor meetings and between elements.

- A special skills program is available at HLA for students with special education needs. The academic history of these students, along with the results of the diagnostic reading and math test given upon entrance are thoroughly reviewed. Decisions are then made for placement into traditional classes, special skills classes, or a combination of the two. Teachers are provided information concerning the student's strengths and weaknesses. A certified special education teacher facilitates both classroom instruction and consultation. Students with special strengths are challenged through individualized activities. Gifted students are given opportunities such as literary debate meetings, mock legal trials, and many other challenges to stimulate their individual abilities.

A special skills program is indeed available at HLA  including a learning computer lab (or at least was before the fire).   Harper was the certified special education teacher.  There is currenlty a special education teacher on staff, however I am unaware of her certification.  College level courses have been taught on campus.  Students are given opportunities to participate in mock trials, debates, philosophy club, business club, chess club, National Honor Society, Student Council, etc.

- Hidden Lake Academy's Art and Theatre Programs are designed to be more than artistic enrichment.

HLA's Art program has included showing at local galleries which students can attend.  Theatre presentations have been presented both on campus and off.

- Can HLA provide a safe, healthy environment and teach my child self control? This same structure provides for the emotionally, psychologically, and socially safe environment where students may explore and learn to appropriately express feelings and work to heal past hurts. HLA is not a locked facility; however, physical safety is provided by round-the-clock staffing, dormitory security systems, and limited access to the campus.

HLA is not a locked campus, it is staffed 24 hours, it does have dormitory security and access to campus is limited.

- Our students are not court-ordered to HLA and do not include violent or severely disturbed children.

This is correct, no student has been court-ordered to attend HLA.  Don't confuse this with students who have been either court-ordered to attend a program or with whom an agreement has been reached to drop or lessen charges if a student attends a program.  HLA does not knowingly admit violent or severely distrubed children, however, as discussed elsewhere , some parents are not forthcoming with information regarding the severity of their child's disorder and this is only realized after admission.  These families are encouraged to seek alternative placement.

- HLA teachers hold a minimum Bachelor to Doctoral level degree, Counselors and the teaching staff work together to assure every child the optimal opportunity for academic success that will lead to positive, and successful future endeavors.

All HLA teachers hold a minimum of a Bachelor's degree.  The counseling and education department work closely together to meet the students academic needs.

- Teachers' Minimum Qualifications:
Bachelor's or Master's Degree in related field with teaching
certificate.

All HLA teachers hold a minimum of a Bachelor's degree.  Again, Be careful that you are reading is correctly it does not say:
Bachelor's Degree with teaching certificate or Master's Degree in related field with teaching certificate.

- Counselor's Minimum Qualifications:
Master's Degree in related field. Commitment to 22-26
month contract or the duration of the assigned peer group
through to graduation.

All counselors have a Master's Degree in a related field and all ethical counselors are commited to graduating the peer group with which they started.

- Assistant Counselors' Minimum Qualifications:
Bachelor's Degree or above in related field.

HLA does not currently utilize Assistant Counselors but do utilize some Bachelor's level staff who are seeking a Master's Degree to assist counselors with groups.  I am unaware of the qualifications for the Recreational Counselors.

It appears that HLA provides all that you have listed.  These services may not be what you expected or what you believe you read but they are all met.  HLA provides parents an opportunity for a complete tour of the campus and all issues can be clarified at that point.  So, looks like you got what was advertised and what you paid for.

I apologize for the length of this post, don't want to be confused with Robert B. and his inane ramblings.
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Johnny Ringo - You're trying to make gold out of a pile of shit. You'd make a good PR person with the way you "spin" the issues at hand. The interpretation of what was sold and what was received is based on the experience of the actual consumer. You aren't a consumer - you're the one trying to sell a sub-standard "product". These items are only what is listed in print - don't get us started on what we were promised during phone calls or face-to-face conversations.

But again, this is the typical HLA manipulation. Word things so they sound good, but write them in a manner that can be interpreted to HLA's advantage when it becomes necessary.

Anonymous:
I don't believe HLA is attempting to use these written promises as some form of legal contract.  That would be you.  If you are going to assume that what is stated on a web site is a legal written contract then HLA has the write to argue those statements in a legal manner.  If you were told, promised, avowed, etc. any thing else you should have gotten it in in writing.  That's good business.

Anonymous:
johhny, there ARE laws in this country against false advertising. unless you go to florida....there a little more relaxed there with scams and fraud...maybe you should move HLA to florida? that way you'll never have problems with lawsuits. untill a 17 year old black kid dies after being beaten to death. (yall know what i'm talking about....)

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