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« on: February 02, 2002, 11:06:00 PM »
Does anybody have any information on anyone who started stuttering while at or after Straight?

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2002, 02:40:00 PM »
What about eating disorders Wes? I bet you would get some hits on that one.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2002, 10:25:00 PM »
OK,  I'll buy that.  Right now I'm doing a special study on speech problems that could be tied to thestraights,  but now that you brought it up,  let's hear it:

-stuttering
-eating disorders
-sleep disorders including nightmares and insomnia
-bathroom problems (moving bowels,urination)
-menstrual problems
-anxiety
-depression
-PTSD
-difficulty in having relationships
-melancholia
-agression
-mental illness
-carving on one's body or picking at scabs or nose
-drug use or alcoholism
-ability to trust
-posture or bone problems
-compulsive thoughts
-stealing
-suicidal ideations

And other conditions anyone would like to discuss. The condition you mention.  Did you have it before, during, and or after thestraights?  If you had the condition before thestraigthts was it exacerbated or lessened during/after thestraights?

Thank you,
Wes Fager
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2002, 10:50:00 AM »
I now have pronounced anxiety.  I did not have it before straight, although I think I did during the time I was there (who didnt?), but it was better described as pure fear.  It has gotten slowly worse over the years...I have pretty rough anxiety attacks every now and then.  I believe I am in a more or less constant state of anxiety to some degree, but I do recognize it and have learned to continue to be productive and functional without the use of medication.
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2002, 02:52:00 PM »
I understand what you are going through Carmel, I had a fear of being in public and still do, I don't like driving anywhere except of course to work.
I don't get scared about what people say, just the fact that if I find somewhere where there are too many people I become anxious and jittery.
I enjoy being alone a lot of the time and being inside.

Another problem that I face is light sensitivity, I've never had it until I went into Straight. Since we couldn't be outside and barely see the sun, I need to wear sunglasses nearly 90% of the time unless it rains outside.
I can't open my windows much because of the glare of the sun, and at night sometimes the headlights blind me so much I need to turn my eyes to the opposite side of the road.

Did anyone else have that problem?
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2002, 05:41:00 PM »
Hi guys! Just found this and it has been answering several things I couldn't place. I was in Atlanta from '82-84, '86-88 (most of this time on staff).

Let's see from Wes's list:
*stuttering - when under stress
*sleep - I had to sleep with the light on for about 2 years.
* Depression
* PTSD - Not a self-diagnosis
* Difficulty in relationships - Translates doormat
* Drug use - stop 13 years ago
* Suicidal Ideations - I did not tell my threapist about this for fear of being locked up again.

One y'all forgot. Nightmares - I still occasionally have them after almost 20 yrs.

I think I am fairly typical coming out of there.

Clay
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2002, 11:04:00 PM »
Yeah nightmares still happen to me too and not even just nightmares sometimes dreams that relate to Straight. I have some real weird ones that seem so real.
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2002, 01:03:00 AM »
Clay,
Please email me.  we need to talk.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2002, 08:01:00 PM »
i have all of the below:
 
-sleep disorders including nightmares and insomnia

*wake up screaming nightmares about 2x a week regularly

-bathroom problems (moving bowels,urination)

*nothing serious except for years i wouldn't use public restrooms.
 
-anxiety

*yes, about 1x week have panics over nothing.

-depression

-melancholia

-agression

-mental illness

-carving on one's body or picking at scabs or nose

-drug use or alcoholism

*i still use alcohol and ocassionally drugs

-ability to trust

-suicidal ideation
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2002, 08:51:00 PM »
hmmmmm . . . ok, after 24 years I carry the following baggage around.

1. PTS (not paralizing, but I still feel it)
2. dreams - I wouldn't really classify them as nightmares, but they are definatley stratight dreams.  I don't even really have to be in a straight situations in the dreams, but I know I am there 'cause of the claustrophobic(sp) and intense feelings of needing to escape.
3. I get pretty confrontational w/my family when I am stressed.
4.  Stuttering, sometimes - but I don't really know if I can attribute it to my 15 months in the program.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2002, 09:28:00 AM »
Severe Anxiety, have to take drugs occasionally to control panic attacks.

Trouble sleeping and the occasional nightmare.

Depression - Aren't we all

Still panicked about being locked up after being out for nine years.  In fact, I keep thinking they will find me through this website and come get me.  They can't.... right?
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2002, 06:33:00 PM »
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On 2002-06-12 06:28:00, Maddie May wrote:
I keep thinking they will find me through this website and come get me.  They can't.... right?

LOL, no.  :smile:

From what I heard at the conference last weekend, the masterminds behind Straight (Semblers and Newtons) are runnin' scared -- both families hired security to watch their houses that weekend.  Funny, if they really think their programs did so much to help kids, then why did they hire security to keep those now grown-up kids at bay?

I know the fear/paranoia you feel though.  I was severely depressed and angry both before and after Straight, but it was years before I sought the professional help I needed because I was scared I'd go into a psychiatrist's office, hear a door shut me, and be locked up for another 15 months.

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2002, 10:59:00 PM »
I only stutter when Mindi is around...
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2002, 09:05:00 PM »
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On 2002-06-14 15:33:00, Cleopatra2U wrote:

From what I heard at the conference last weekend, the masterminds behind Straight (Semblers and Newtons) are runnin' scared -- both families hired security to watch their houses that weekend.  Funny, if they really think their programs did so much to help kids, then why did they hire security to keep those now grown-up kids at bay?

I know the fear/paranoia you feel though.  I was severely depressed and angry both before and after Straight, but it was years before I sought the professional help I needed because I was scared I'd go into a psychiatrist's office, hear a door shut me, and be locked up for another 15 months.

Mindi

I know, I know! We just want to thank them for all the help and they keep running away from us :???: (NOT!)

I still feel I've had just about all the help  I can stand. I figure there's no discipline of study that a typical person with more than typical interest can't understand if they dry. Why in the hell would I wan't to walk into a situation where I have to trust my layman self to someone who's mastered psychological manipulation? Pass, thanks. I'll just pour my heart out to good and trusted friends.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2002, 12:19:00 AM »
I have sleep disorders and have had bad dreams like when I'm running away from them [$traight staff] and there chasing me but I seem to be running in slow motion and they run fast and right before they catch me I wake up with mt heart racing, I really hate that one! I have anxiety, I would think eveyone who was in $traight has that.I have Depression,physical problems,PTSD? I haven't seen anyone or have had any kind of help in any way I'm just left to flap in the breeze like so many others I would imagine. I was in St. Pete in around "80" it was a hot hell hole they used alot of sleep depravation on me to help break me down. They would move me around alot far away so it took along time to transport me,therefore cutting my sleep time even farther.I remeber one of the times that I said I was 18 and they had no right to keep me here and Miller Newton took me to his house after one of the open meetings from hell he [Newton] kept drilling me on how there was something wrong with me for wanting to leave the program and that he would get a court order to keep me there or send me to mental institution.This goes on all nite I would get to sleep about 4am after of course your final brainwashing and demoralization of the day called a moral invantory. Then they would wake me up at 6am and my no sleep nightmere would start all over again.
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