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Important~ Re: the 14 yo. boy's death at Aspen's Youth Care
« Reply #315 on: September 05, 2007, 08:04:24 PM »
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WHO IS A PROGRAM SHILL WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO DISTRACT AND DEFLECT FROM THE REAL ISSUES.


Actually, I think we are all getting tired of this line.  You come on here and use it over and over again.  I am discussing the issues.  You are trying to turn this into “Thewhoâ€
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« Reply #316 on: September 05, 2007, 08:10:15 PM »
TheWho is fornits resident squatter.
I thought TheWho was banned?
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Important~ Re: the 14 yo. boy's death at Aspen's Youth Care
« Reply #317 on: September 05, 2007, 08:21:53 PM »
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I'm not disrespecting the dead child,.....


Then stay on topic is all we ask.  We are presently focusing on the investigation of the childs death.  The last item was whether the parents of the other children should be notified of what has happened.

I know from past experience that the parents are notified either by phone or letter if a child has died or an injury has occured.  But the more important issue, at hand, was whether the school (or business) has an obligation to notify the parents (customers) during and ongoing investigation and at what point,if any, should the parents of the other children be notified.
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Important~ Re: the 14 yo. boy's death at Aspen's Youth Care
« Reply #318 on: September 05, 2007, 08:23:18 PM »
Re-Ban theWho.
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Important~ Re: the 14 yo. boy's death at Aspen's Youth Care
« Reply #319 on: September 05, 2007, 08:26:11 PM »
My child dead in a program, I need some therapy from TheWho.
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« Reply #320 on: September 05, 2007, 08:27:22 PM »
Is this therapy affordable?
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« Reply #321 on: September 05, 2007, 08:38:03 PM »
Total Number of Children Murdered in Programs: Years 1965-2007

536


Restraint: 236
Dehydration: 144
Beating: 98
Suicide: 38

*source United States Red Cross
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« Reply #322 on: September 05, 2007, 08:46:07 PM »
Wait for it.  Wait for it............
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« Reply #323 on: September 05, 2007, 08:46:50 PM »
Percentage of program parents who touch their kids in inappropriate places:

58%*

This number is high, we need to work on getting it down, as a community.

*Source: US Crime Statistics Bureau
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« Reply #324 on: September 05, 2007, 09:00:02 PM »
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Re-Ban theWho.

NEVERMIND TheWho here's the BuLLocKs...
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« Reply #325 on: September 05, 2007, 09:00:22 PM »
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Total Number of Children Murdered in Programs: Years 1965-2007

536


Restraint: 236
Dehydration: 144
Beating: 98
Suicide: 38

*source United States Red Cross

Thanks for the input, Your numbers span more than 4 decades, we lose much more than that  (750 children approx.) every 3 months * in our public school system due to just suicide and homicide.  This doesn’t count the number of kids killed at home due to beatings, restraints, drug overdoses.

Programs take a big hit here on fornits, but like you have shown (when placed in perspective) their track record shows they can be a much safer alternative for kids at-risk than doing nothing and allowing them to fail at home.

* NCES -- National Center for Education Statistics
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« Reply #326 on: September 05, 2007, 09:03:42 PM »
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Percentage of program parents who touch their kids in inappropriate places:

58%*

This number is high, we need to work on getting it down, as a community.

*Source: US Crime Statistics Bureau



The number is going up fast, unfortunately.
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« Reply #327 on: September 05, 2007, 09:07:03 PM »
It is unfortunate so many parents think cleaning their child's diaper includes eating their shit. It's not good for them.
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« Reply #328 on: September 05, 2007, 09:09:32 PM »
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There is no such thing as "sufficient visability" in Utah. The licensing suspension would not even have been newsworthy had it not been blatantly pointed out to the media by yours truly.

And shouldn't the parents of the other kids be alerted at least that the license of the facility where they have entrusted the safety and medical care of their children is under review for negligence?
I think what is meant is there are many people involved at this point and the on-call nurse is going to be called for every kid who sneezes until they figure out what went wrong.  So as far as the probability of a repeat of this occurring during this period of change, it is virtually nil.  They are trying to figure out if and where the procedure failed and how they can prevent this from happening in the future.  

Sometimes they hire an independent agency to review the procedures (as a second pair of eyes) to see what they find and get recommendations from them.

As far as notifying the parents, this wouldn’t be warranted at this point because their kids are probably safer now then when they were a few weeks ago.  If you own a restaurant and someone gets food poisoning you don’t hang a sign in your window alerting people to what occurred.  You quickly resolve the issue, put corrections in place so that it doesn’t happen again.

If it were an epidemic of some sort then I would agree that the customers (or parents in this case) should be notified and alerted to the situation.

There are not "many people" involded at this point. That is a joke. There is 1 licensing official looking at the police report, they don't even go in and do their own "investigation".  They check that the licenses are current, review the police report and the coronor's report, and that the people on staff when the death occurred actually passed their background checks. There is NO oversight. There is no "indepedent agency".  The whole thing is a frickin' joke. NO ONE REALLY CARES. The licensing agencies are just as negligent as the staff and the administration for knowing that medical neglect happens and not putting the proper safeguards in place, and holding the programs liable, even after multiple deaths.

"They are trying to figure out if and where the procedure failed" - If and Where???? give me a break. A boy died. There is no if and where. They didn't follow procedure. They didn't pick up the phone and call their own medical personnel.  He did not just have flu symptoms. He was VIOLENTLY and PAINFULLY ill. They turned their back on a sick, helpless kid.  Period. There's your if and where.

Your little restaurant analogy/food poisoning scenario is not comparable to the death of a child who was not believed.   If I was the parent of one of the kids still at Youth Care, I would want to know exactly what happened, and who is being investigated for what,  so I could decide for myself if I wanted to leave my child there. If every program had to close down whenever a child died, they might get it that they are responsible for their behavior and the safety of their kids. If they can't do that, then they shouldn't be doing business.


TheWho is a CONVICTED CHILD MOLESTER.

He spent three years in prison.

He made these posts a long time ago before deleting them.

He found this forum searching for his case, and attempts to defend himself.

Kind of changes thing, doesn't it?

He will deny it but the posts are on archive sites, check it out.
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Important~ Re: the 14 yo. boy's death at Aspen's Youth Care
« Reply #329 on: September 05, 2007, 09:17:25 PM »
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It is unfortunate so many parents think cleaning their child's diaper includes eating their shit. It's not good for them.

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