You'll have to learn the secret handshake...
I was attempting to have a discussion on another forum with a pro-program parent (troll, I suspect) who clammed up when she couldn't answer the questions put to her, and she said she would sign off, and what a shame, she thought both sides should be represented, and weren't we awful with our agenda, blah, blah, blah... She also called the stories kids were posting about PV to be "too extreme to be believable". Nice thing to tell a survivor who's having to remember traumatic details, I thought it was geared toward bullying them into retreating.
As I reminded her, nobody said she couldn't post, there would be no banning, but if she wanted to state her case, she'd better be willing to engage in some discussion with parents and survivors who don't have the same opinion and our sharing their experiences. The point being, she was welcome to post until she turned blue in the face, nobody would deny her that right.
Pro-industry forums and Peninsula Village's parent forum (which is invite only, heavily moderated and pro-PV to manic pitch) won't allow contradicting opinions, not for long, anyway. Lon and that lot may find Fornits "extreme", but his folks have trolled here for ages, Ginger wants everyone to have access, which is why even the staunchest programees can't stay away - they're drawn to troll, and in some cases, they're enlightened and soften their positions. All praise to Ginger, and a rigid, full-thrust middle finger salute to the Nazis of ST.