Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.

[Anonymous]

Isabelle does not refer to programs. Only under extreme cases has Isabelle provided parents a number to call for program options and only once, that she is aware of, has a child been placed into a program under these circumstances. Isabelle did not charge a referral fee and received no money for referring this child.

Wow, anybody know what facility helped place this child in?  Was it done through PURE?

Source: Editorial Board of CAICA
http://pattiatwoods.blogspot.com/

[Anonymous]

People hear you.  You're not alone.  There are people out there that truly care, and are there to talk to you and your family, and help you through this.

[Anonymous]

I am tired, and want to go to bed.  Maybe I will pick this up in the morning.

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

More double speak from Isabelle.

Isabelle does not refer to programs.

Then this:

Only under extreme cases has Isabelle provided parents a number to call for program options and only once, that she is aware of, has a child been placed into a program under these circumstances.

Isabelle does not seem to realize it only takes ONE REFERRAL to disqualify herself as someone who "does not refer".

The fact that she ALSO referred the parent (Patty) to PURE as well as a transport company suggests to me that Isabelle has a very selective memory.

That's two referred parents (not one) that we know of, is it not?

 :roll:

[Anonymous]

Does Sue Scheff USE this Sunrise Transport Company? IF so, to what programs are they transporting PURE kids to?

Something smells fishy here.

I am not impressed with that blog of Izzy's.  Who the hell is the Editorial Board of CAICA?

I demand an answer!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Yes, and water she drowns, fire she burns, oooops.....she's not a witch.

[psy]

PSY SETS THE RECORD STRAIGHT

     My name is Michael Crawford.  I do live in Virginia, as Isabelle stated.  I did go to Benchmark and I was hurt there.  Some parents don't seem to realize that WWASP does not own a monopoly on abuse in, or out of this country.  After leaving Benchmark in 2002, I began to speak out against the place online, specifically, on Tom Croke's website, "Bridge to Understanding Online".  Sue Scheff found my posting, contacted me, and invited me to Trekkers.  As soon as she found out Benchmark was not WWASP, she totally lost interest in my story, or anything I had to say.  I was of no _use_ to her.  Soon afterwards, it became clear that Sue was not interested in shutting down all abusive programs...  just her competition, WWASP.  Had she not tried to defraud the referral system at WWASP, i theorize she would probably still be working for them.  Sue Scheff does NOT care about the kids, and neither does her marketing department, Isabelle Zehnder's CAICA.  They care about making money.

     I am really "that radical", I believe that all programs should be shut down.  Anybody who has actually done enough research into this industry would probably come to a similar conclusion.  There comes a point where an entire industry is so thoroughly corrupt that, even though there might be one or two safe programs, the overall risk is far too high.  Saying "shutting down the entire industry is impossible" is like saying "abolishing slavery entirely is impossible".  Regardless of how difficult it may my, it DOES NOT MATTER.  Abuse, regardless of scope, is still wrong.

     Unlike Sue Scheff, I do not make a single penny of my time I spend trying to fight this industry by my actions on and offline,   Arguably, I could have easily "moved on" or "got over it" but that would mean ignoring the plight of people who, today, are still suffering what I went through (and far worse).  Arguably, I have lost money by fighting this battle, because I could easily be getting paid large sums of money by working in IT full time (as I did, for a while after Benchmark).  There are times when I have sacrificed grades in school, or even missed classes to help fight this industry.  There is no question that I am obsessed.  There is a modern day holocaust going on in this country right now, and it's not just WWASP.  I question the ethics of anybody who isn't appalled by what is going on this very moment under the guise of "treatment".

     Unlike Isabelle Zehnder, I don't claim to be an advocate.  I'm just a survivor who speaks out about his experiences, and takes the fight to those who participate directly or indirectly in abuse.  Educational consultants who refer to programs participate in abuse.  Like Catherine Sutton said, "Look up the word negligent".  Sue Scheff, by her own admission under oath, claimed to be an Educational Consultant, and admitted to functioning in that role for all intensive purposes.**  She admitted to taking money in return for referrals to programs she had not directly investigated.**  Isabelle Zehnder, who claims to be an advocate, not only refers to Sue Scheff, but also To Sunrise Adolescent Transport, who actively work with WWASP.  Like Catherine Sutton said, "Look up the word negligent".  In my opinion, it more than crosses the line into criminal negligence, but that is up for a court to decide.

     As far as the rest of Isabelle's allegations against me and others...  I'm not going to even justify much of that with a response.  I did not threaten her via Email, though in true hypocritical fashion, that is exactly what she did to me.  If there is anything anybody is curious about regarding her allegations against me, please, feel free to ask me publicly, and I will answer.

* see Patti emails
** see WWASP vs. PURE transcript

Edit:  PS: the entire purpose of Patti Atwoods was to find out if Isabelle Zehnder was secretly referring to PURE and/or programs and/or escort services.  It's called investigative reporting.  Isabelle failed the honesty test as her actions show she violates her own disclaimer of neutrality when it suits her.  She can scream "I WAS DUPED" all she wants, for all I care, it merely shows how upset she is at getting caught with her hand in the cookie jar.

[Anonymous]

Great Post, Psy!
 ::kiss::

[Anonymous]

I second that.  Great post Psy!! ::cheers::

[nimdA]

I am really "that radical", I believe that all programs should be shut down. Anybody who has actually done enough research into this industry would probably come to a similar conclusion. There comes a point where an entire industry is so thoroughly corrupt that, even though there might be one or two safe programs, the overall risk is far too high. Saying "shutting down the entire industry is impossible" is like saying "abolishing slavery entirely is impossible". Regardless of how difficult it may my, it DOES NOT MATTER. Abuse, regardless of scope, is still wrong.

The average noob to this issue comes around with some sort of idea that there are these bad places out there that hurt kids. In principle they object to them, but in the same breath they often say, "Something has to be done to help these kids." Far be it for me to suggest that this concept of help is often at odds with the definition of the word help itself.

Help implies something positive is being gained from it, and not at all the emotional, physical, and spiritual reaming of ghastly proportions that has been the norm for far more years than can be counted. I don't think that most people, no matter what their involvement to this issue, understand that the evil within this industry isn't due to a recent rot being set into the otherwise health body of teen help facilities.

Who really hears about Synonan anymore? I never once heard about it till it was suggested I investigate it by another.

How many people know what the lawsuit was about that smashed CEDU? My own brother attended RMA and doesn't seem to be able to speak on the subject without spewing out a torrent of sycophantic CEDU adoration.

I've decided not to speak much about Izzy and Sue. Many might not see it, but in a few months to a year those two will be just another blip on the radar. We will look back on them with a chuckle. To bad really that Issabelle had to align herself with Sue. Perhaps had she not done so she might have turned out differently. Instead she is going to end up another victim of an industry that ought to be scoured from the earth with flame throwers.

How many lives has this industry ended, deformed, or left bleeding? I certainly refuse to venture a guess, but anyone who comes into contact with this cesspit of evil is a victim of it in one way or another. Issabelle is a victim of her own circumstances, but at least that gives her more power to control the situation by doing what is right.

Issabelle, I just want you to know one thing. People are going to remember you for both how you entered into this mess and how you leave it.

You can choose to fight this all you want and be ran out of town on a rail without one shred of self-respect to your name.

Or..

You can do the right thing by helping those who need it against Sue Scheff. No favors are owed to Sue by yourself. This will allow you to walk away under your own power with your head held high. At least you will have some shreds of your dignity left to you to cling to.

All it will take is for you to speak the right words into a certain attorney's ear. I know, within a reasonable degree of certainity, your words would be most welcome.

[Anonymous]

Isabelle Zehnder didn't just enter into this "mess" she played a central role in helping to create it.

Isabelle Zehnder a "victim"?

I don't think so TSW.

 :roll:

[Anonymous]

Excellent post Psy.  As usual, you hit the nail squarely on the head.

 :nworthy:

[Anonymous]

More double speak from Isabelle.

Isabelle does not refer to programs.

Then this:

Only under extreme cases has Isabelle provided parents a number to call for program options and only once, that she is aware of, has a child been placed into a program under these circumstances.

Isabelle does not seem to realize it only takes ONE REFERRAL to disqualify herself as someone who "does not refer".

The fact that she ALSO referred the parent (Patty) to PURE as well as a transport company suggests to me that Isabelle has a very selective memory.

That's two referred parents (not one) that we know of, is it not?

 :roll:

Maybe you don't get it. Isabelle does not refer children to programs. She has given parents resources, many of them, and not to put their kids in programs but to keep their kids out of programs. If you only knew how many kids are out because she helped you'd stop nagging on this issue.

She believes in keeping kids home wiht parents when at all possible and sometimes its' not. she is not a referral business, there is a huge difference between being a referral business and in helping people find althernative help for the kids.

You know what? Any normal person will get it. I don't know why you don't on this board. Radical is exactly the word. Anyone would understand the situation where there is no where else to turn but to find a safe place. If she'd been around when you went to a program maybe you wouldn't have ended up in an abusive one.

and her website is not all about wwasps.

[nimdA]

Isabelle Zehnder didn't just enter into this "mess" she played a central role in helping to create it.

Isabelle Zehnder a "victim"?

I don't think so TSW.

 :roll:

Revise your time frame and back it up a few years. We all started somewhere in this and once upon a time she was very new to this industry and made some bad choices in her associations.. She is a victim of her choices.

Much like you are a victim of your own lack of ability to properly read.

Now that is roll worthy.

[Anonymous]

Sue Scheff does NOT care about the kids, and neither does her marketing department, Isabelle Zehnder's CAICA. They care about making money.

Have proof Isabelle cares more about money than kids? Put your money where your mouth is. Let's see documentation that she's made a penny off of advocating for kids. She has a right to earn a living through her new company if she wants to help kids instead of work in law. She has worked for four years helping kids and has earned NO money doing it. She's just like the rest of the people in this world who need to make money. We live in a free country where she can choose her profession just like you can.