Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.

[Anonymous]

Isabelle Zehnder wrote an article denouncing teen escort services.
Yet, she referred Pattie to Sunrise Adolescent Transports?

Sunrise Adolescent Transports is owned by Julie Thompson who previously worked for WWASP's TEEN HELP as an admissions rep.

How does Zehnder explain to the participants in the Turley law suit that she refers to SUNRISE which is owned by a previous WWASP employee, who gave glowing recommendations for the WWASP facility Cross Creek Manor?

Shall we try again?

In February Isabelle was contacted by a mother who wanted to remove her son from an abusive facility in Jamaica. The mother hired Sunrise Transport to bring him back to the states.

After weeks of working with Patti Isabelle received a call from her inquiring how other parents had removed their children from this facility. When Isabelle told Patti this mother had used a transport company Patti asked if Isabelle could get her the number.

Patti said the family would be flying to Jamaica the following day. Isabelle, confused, asked why they would want to hire the transport company when they were flying to Jamaica to pick up her nephew. Patti explained the family did not trust Jamaican drivers and wanted someone from the US.

Isabelle called the mother and asked for the transport company’s phone number. The mother gave Isabelle three numbers and Isabelle called and left the numbers on Patti’s voice-mail. Patti had also asked Isabelle to call the transport company to find out if they would be able to do this in such short notice, which she did.

When Isabelle dialed the first number someone from Midwest Academy answered the phone. Isabelle indicated she had the wrong number and called the other numbers. When Isabelle realized the error, she immediately called Patti and left a voice-mail message letting her know the first number was incorrect and that she should not call it.

There was no reason for Isabelle to research Sunrise Transport – they were being used as a glorified Taxi service to drive the adults to and from the facility. Not to transport a child.

[Anonymous]

Appears to my more like the modern version of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf", only Isabelle's not the wolf.  I wonder who is?  Any guesses?  Anyone?

[Anonymous]

Okay let's get back to the topic.

Apparently, Isabelle Zehnder violated the terms of her own disclaimer when she referred someone (Patty) who she believed to be a parent to PURE and also, an UNLICENSED child transport company in Utah.

Isabelle could have told this parent she was sorry, but CAICA and left it at that.

That is her disclaimer.  Her own words.

Case Closed.

Party Over.

Turn off the lights and lock the door on your way out.

[Anonymous]

Okay let's get back to the topic.

Apparently, Isabelle Zehnder violated the terms of her own disclaimer when she referred someone (Patty) who she believed to be a parent to PURE and also, an UNLICENSED child transport company in Utah.

Isabelle could have told this parent she was sorry, but CAICA and left it at that.

That is her disclaimer.  Her own words.

Case Closed.

Party Over.

Turn off the lights and lock the door on your way out.

Sorry - not shutting off the lights quite yet. Let's try this one more time, shall we?

In February Isabelle was contacted by a mother who wanted to remove her son from an abusive facility in Jamaica. The mother hired Sunrise Transport to bring him back to the states.

After weeks of working with Patti Isabelle received a call from her inquiring how other parents had removed their children from this facility. When Isabelle told Patti this mother had used a transport company Patti asked if Isabelle could get her the number.

Patti said the family would be flying to Jamaica the following day. Isabelle, confused, asked why they would want to hire the transport company when they were flying to Jamaica to pick up her nephew. Patti explained the family did not trust Jamaican drivers and wanted someone from the US.

Isabelle called the mother and asked for the transport company’s phone number. The mother gave Isabelle three numbers and Isabelle called and left the numbers on Patti’s voice-mail. Patti had also asked Isabelle to call the transport company to find out if they would be able to do this in such short notice, which she did.

When Isabelle dialed the first number someone from Midwest Academy answered the phone. Isabelle indicated she had the wrong number and called the other numbers. When Isabelle realized the error, she immediately called Patti and left a voice-mail message letting her know the first number was incorrect and that she should not call it.

There was no reason for Isabelle to research Sunrise Transport – they were being used as a glorified Taxi service to drive the adults to and from the facility. Not to transport a child.

[Anonymous]

It seems that A CERTAIN PERSON has already been told that talking about herself in the 3rd person like this IS NOT mentally healthy.
Now scoot along old girl, get some sleep---and here's a promise: you...ALL OF YOU...will feel better in the moring.  Nite, Nite old girl.

[Anonymous]

Someone emailed me that Catherine had aligned herself with your website,

I haven't aligned myself with any "ONE" website.  But, I will join forces with those who are TRUE Child Advocates and believe in protecting children the way I do.  I was pleased to join with others by placing the "NO REFERAL ZONE" logo on my website.  Is this the website alignment you are referring to??

and frankly I am a bit amazed, considering you appear to be a foul mouth, disrespectful bunch of renengades, using her for your cause,

No one is using me to further their cause.  But, if you want to talk about people using people, I can share a story with you about someone calling me in May of last year claiming to be doing a report.  I believe this person was using me to get information to use towards re-incarnating her website.

which I think in the long run will be detrimental to her cause,

I don't think speaking up on this website is going to hurt my reputation or cause.  It's called freedom of speech.    

and it's my belief she will lose any credibility by staying aligned with you guys.

My so-called credibility is the fact that my daughter Michelle died a tortorous death in a program owned and operated by stupid people.  I now speak up on behalf of my daughter and others who have suffered, and or, lost their "young" lives to this industry.  

How about you and I change places and you can have my credibility.

Your mouths are a complete turn off, this coming from someone who has already donated, and have second thoughts at doing it again.

I haven't called you any names.  I speak from the pain in my heart that will continue to hurt for the rest of my life.

FYI...............
There is a misconception floating around on this forum that the Michelle Sutton Memorial Fund, Inc. received a donation of some kind.

The Michelle Sutton Memorial Fund, Inc. is governed by family members.  We haven't received donations since our last fund raiser ten years ago.

Goodnight all,

Michelle Sutton Memorial Fund, Inc.
Catherine Sutton

[Anonymous]

Okay let's get back to the topic.

Apparently, Isabelle Zehnder violated the terms of her own disclaimer when she referred someone (Patty) who she believed to be a parent to PURE and also, an UNLICENSED child transport company in Utah.

Isabelle could have told this parent she was sorry, but CAICA and left it at that.

That is her disclaimer.  Her own words.

Case Closed.

Party Over.

Turn off the lights and lock the door on your way out.

Buh-Bye Isabelle.

This party is definitly over.

[Anonymous]

WOLF, WOLF, WOLF

[Anonymous]

Okay let's get back to the topic.

Apparently, Isabelle Zehnder violated the terms of her own disclaimer when she referred someone (Patty) who she believed to be a parent to PURE

You people are having a tough time getting it, I can see. So let's try this one more time.

Isabelle does not refer to programs. Only under extreme cases has Isabelle provided parents a number to call for program options and only once, that she is aware of, has a child been placed into a program under these circumstances. Isabelle did not charge a referral fee and received no money for referring this child.

What the hell do you people think she should do when she gets calls from parents and there's no other choice left? Do you live in the real world? Have you listened, judges are sending kids to programs and sometimes there is no option and it is not up ot parents. What, send the parent off to fend for themselves on the internet? Or maybe guide the to some ed con? Come on - get real.

Let me ask you this - what would you tell a parent who said hey, my kid is in TB and I just found out it's abuisve. I was sold a wonderful program and sent him there a few months ago. I'm not a person who uses the computer much so I didn't know there was anything wrong. I got worried when they started cutting off communication and telling me my kid was a liar. I know that he's not. He might have done some bad shit but a liar, no. Not my son.

So I knew what I had to do, I had to go get him out of there. But I couldn't because a judge had ordered him to be there. I called my attroney and had him set another court date. The judge agreed that if we found another program that we felt was safer for our son he woudl order him back to this country.

Now - what do you do with this parent? The kid has to go to a program and there is nothing in your area, you've got 48 hours to make a decision. Well, when parents call Isabelle and she has to deal with these things she has to use her best judgment.

Hell, at least she's had the guts to be out there helping families. Maybe you should all send her your phone number so she could refer these poeple to you and you could guide them. Tell me, where would you send these poeple? To the local therapist? Wrong answer - judge won't buy that. these judges are brutal these days and you're lucky to get one to change their original ruling. THink about it.

[Anonymous]

There was no reason for Isabelle to research Sunrise Transport – they were being used as a glorified Taxi service to drive the adults to and from the facility. Not to transport a child.

Sure --- keep telling yourself that Izzy.

You referred  a parent to an unlicensed transport company to drive them to and from a facility.  Guess the kid wasn't part of the deal, huh?

How stupid do you think people are to buy this crap?

Why don't you just admit you screwed up by violating the terms of your own disclaimer?  Wouldn't that be the grownup, mature thing to do?

 :roll:

[Anonymous]

Is that really Cathy Sutton?  Who said anything about when they donated?

[Anonymous]

Okay let's get back to the topic.

Apparently, Isabelle Zehnder violated the terms of her own disclaimer when she referred someone (Patty) who she believed to be a parent to PURE

You people are having a tough time getting it, I can see. So let's try this one more time.

Isabelle does not refer to programs. Only under extreme cases has Isabelle provided parents a number to call for program options and only once, that she is aware of, has a child been placed into a program under these circumstances. Isabelle did not charge a referral fee and received no money for referring this child.

What the hell do you people think she should do when she gets calls from parents and there's no other choice left? Do you live in the real world? Have you listened, judges are sending kids to programs and sometimes there is no option and it is not up ot parents. What, send the parent off to fend for themselves on the internet? Or maybe guide the to some ed con? Come on - get real.

Let me ask you this - what would you tell a parent who said hey, my kid is in TB and I just found out it's abuisve. I was sold a wonderful program and sent him there a few months ago. I'm not a person who uses the computer much so I didn't know there was anything wrong. I got worried when they started cutting off communication and telling me my kid was a liar. I know that he's not. He might have done some bad shit but a liar, no. Not my son.

So I knew what I had to do, I had to go get him out of there. But I couldn't because a judge had ordered him to be there. I called my attroney and had him set another court date. The judge agreed that if we found another program that we felt was safer for our son he woudl order him back to this country.

Now - what do you do with this parent? The kid has to go to a program and there is nothing in your area, you've got 48 hours to make a decision. Well, when parents call Isabelle and she has to deal with these things she has to use her best judgment.

Hell, at least she's had the guts to be out there helping families. Maybe you should all send her your phone number so she could refer these poeple to you and you could guide them. Tell me, where would you send these poeple? To the local therapist? Wrong answer - judge won't buy that. these judges are brutal these days and you're lucky to get one to change their original ruling. THink about it.

Look Izzy - try as you might - you aren't going to be able to spin this into a positive.

It is what it is.  Why can't you just accept it?  You are 50 something years old and acting like a teenager.  

Do you need a program to help raise your emotional intelligence?

Or, can you spare some of your precious time and give yourself a free 30 minute consultation?

I promise not to laugh.

[Anonymous]

If she admitted she screwed up under unusual circumstances by not first checking sources because she was under unusual pressure, and lets face it people, are you perfect, have you ever made a mistake, and the facts of the story you believed, would it matter?

I wonder what it would be like if someone was sitting around crawling all over everything you do with a microscope, waiting in the lurch for you to make a mistake, like a wicked upper level employee just waiting for an excuse to have you fired, or for that matter, finding a way to trap you when you were over-worked and not paid.  And don't tell me you've never been in that position, I am talking to the parents now, not the kids.

[Anonymous]

Someone stands to benefit from knocking these people off a ladder of success, and for me, I can't wait to see who it is, and then maybe, just maybe, say "TOLD YAH SO"!

[Anonymous]

Yah, meanwhile, no one is keeping their eyes on the real culprit, and the kids and parents are going to pay the price.