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Deborah:
One of the comments was:


--- Quote ---thats fucking intense man. Yea i woke up at 2:00 to 2 transporters at first i thought they were russian mafia. At turn about i did my best at roundy then it went downhill from there. I passed notes, i stole, i swore, i wiped my butt on some kids pillow, i did everything wrong. I went on 2 desert walks in a row. Ill never forget just walkin in the sand for 20 miles with only a peanut butter sandwich in my stomach and some water with sand in it.
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And what's the 'therapeutic' benefit of that 'treatment'?

TheWho:

--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---One of the comments was:


--- Quote ---thats fucking intense man. Yea i woke up at 2:00 to 2 transporters at first i thought they were russian mafia. At turn about i did my best at roundy then it went downhill from there. I passed notes, i stole, i swore, i wiped my butt on some kids pillow, i did everything wrong. I went on 2 desert walks in a row. Ill never forget just walkin in the sand for 20 miles with only a peanut butter sandwich in my stomach and some water with sand in it.
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And what's the 'therapeutic' benefit of that 'treatment'?
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I didn’t see anyone referring to that as therapeutic.   I am sure, especially the kid whose pillow he sat on, didn’t find it therapeutic at all.

Covergaard:

--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---I think the term abuse is relative and calling a school abusive can carry different meanings for different kids.  When we were in highschool many thought they could get a lawyer to allow them to chew gum in school because it wasn’t illegal and there were no laws against it.  They felt the school was being abusive towards them, so I can see your point.
Thanks Covergaard
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Yes, Turn-about would be abusive for an European teenager, who have lived a life with free access those things. If someone forced you to live in Saud-Arabia where there is no alcohol at all (not official and severely punished with whippings, if your are caught) I think that you also would find it too much. That is exactly what happened to these teenager in "Brat Camp" and "Teenager ausser Kontrolle", which came from UK, The Netherlands and Germany.

Second of all I find it very hard to understand why a POW can have more rights than a child at the ranch. Our troops in Iraq arrested some terrorists and forced them to sit in a stone circle for 5 hours. That incident went to trial and it was illegal. But sitting in stone circle all day is reality for the teenagers placed in Roundy. Please explain to me why a suicide bomber should be better protected than a child.

Deborah:

--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---One of the comments was:


--- Quote ---thats fucking intense man. Yea i woke up at 2:00 to 2 transporters at first i thought they were russian mafia. At turn about i did my best at roundy then it went downhill from there. I passed notes, i stole, i swore, i wiped my butt on some kids pillow, i did everything wrong. I went on 2 desert walks in a row. Ill never forget just walkin in the sand for 20 miles with only a peanut butter sandwich in my stomach and some water with sand in it.
--- End quote ---

And what's the 'therapeutic' benefit of that 'treatment'?
--- End quote ---

I didn’t see anyone referring to that as therapeutic.   I am sure, especially the kid whose pillow he sat on, didn’t find it therapeutic at all.
--- End quote ---


Maybe it was a reaction to having his toilet paper away as punishment. That's if they even provide TP.

TheWho:

--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---One of the comments was:


--- Quote ---thats fucking intense man. Yea i woke up at 2:00 to 2 transporters at first i thought they were russian mafia. At turn about i did my best at roundy then it went downhill from there. I passed notes, i stole, i swore, i wiped my butt on some kids pillow, i did everything wrong. I went on 2 desert walks in a row. Ill never forget just walkin in the sand for 20 miles with only a peanut butter sandwich in my stomach and some water with sand in it.
--- End quote ---

And what's the 'therapeutic' benefit of that 'treatment'?
--- End quote ---

I didn’t see anyone referring to that as therapeutic.   I am sure, especially the kid whose pillow he sat on, didn’t find it therapeutic at all.
--- End quote ---

Maybe it was a reaction to having his toilet paper away as punishment. That's if they even provide TP.
--- End quote ---


Could be, but I would still be pretty pissed if that was my pillow.....

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