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My time at Hyde

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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction. For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; for how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another. Listen to Me, O Jacob, and Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, and My right hand has stretched out the heavens; when I call to them, they stand up together.

Isaiah 48 one 'em verses in the one of the mistranslations
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The literal translation from Hebrew is: "I am He, I am Tough Love."

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction. For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; for how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another. Listen to Me, O Jacob, and Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, and My right hand has stretched out the heavens; when I call to them, they stand up together.

Isaiah 48 one 'em verses in the one of the mistranslations
--- End quote ---

The literal translation from Hebrew is: "I am He, I am Tough Love."
--- End quote ---
 

 I though it was

"I am that I am tough loving you"

Ursus:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction. For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; for how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another. Listen to Me, O Jacob, and Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, and My right hand has stretched out the heavens; when I call to them, they stand up together.

Isaiah 48 one 'em verses in the one of the mistranslations
--- End quote ---

The literal translation from Hebrew is: "I am He, I am Tough Love."
--- End quote ---
 

 I though it was

"I am that I am tough loving you"
--- End quote ---


I do believe "Tough Love" was a cliche' originally coined by the so called drug warriors to rationalize any number of their moves... Many of the so called drug warriors did business in the "Troubled Teen" industry in earlier incarnations of their careers.  A cloak of seemingly different colors but actually same philosophy, same target:  errant uncontrollables, dangerously ready to upset the apple cart of the status quo...
 :lol:

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction. For My own sake, for My own sake, I will do it; for how should My name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another. Listen to Me, O Jacob, and Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, and My right hand has stretched out the heavens; when I call to them, they stand up together.

Isaiah 48 one 'em verses in the one of the mistranslations
--- End quote ---

The literal translation from Hebrew is: "I am He, I am Tough Love."
--- End quote ---
 

 I though it was

"I am that I am tough loving you"
--- End quote ---

I do believe "Tough Love" was a cliche' originally coined by the so called drug warriors to rationalize any number of their moves... Many of the so called drug warriors did business in the "Troubled Teen" industry in earlier incarnations of their careers.  A cloak of seemingly different colors but actually same philosophy, same target:  errant uncontrollables, dangerously ready to upset the apple cart of the status quo...
 :lol:
--- End quote ---


No, no. Forty years in the desert. The original "wilderness program."

Anonymous:
I respect your beliefs about how Hyde helped you become the person you are. I don't question your sincerity. I've met other Hyde grads who feel as you do.

But none of this takes away from the hard, cold fact that Hyde was absolutely NOT the right place for me or many people I knew there. None of what you say takes away from the hard, cold fact that Hyde is also a school that has mistreated many people, emotionally abused many people, and mishandled both students and parents. What is indisputable is that Hyde is not able to meet the needs of many of the students who end up there, and that is very costly emotionally and financially. It certainly was for me and my family.

My family will NEVER forgive the incompetent Hyde staff we met, the staff who were abusive, the staff who didn't have the slightest clue about how to handle some of the deeply troubled kids who get sent there, the Hyde staff who preached one thing and then did another.

I'll be the first to admit that Hyde may "work" for some kids, like you. But I'll also be first in line to scream to anyone who will listen that Hyde is the worst possible school for too many students there. If Hyde only accepted students who fit your description, my guess is that it would have a tiny fraction of its current number of students. Hyde needs to fill beds, so it deludes itself and everyone else that it can handle all the students it admits. No way. So many of the Hyde teachers and others who were there when I was there didn't have the training, experience, or maturity to provide students what they really need. For that, Hyde needs to be exposed. It's fine to publicize success stories like yours, but Hyde also should be honest and admit its unbelievable shortcomings and failures.

Have you read the dozens of stories by people posting here about their horrific Hyde experiences, teacher scandals, mistreatment, etc.? Maybe you think all of this is exaggerated. I don't think it is.

Truth over harmony, right?
 
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