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My time at Hyde

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Anonymous:
I respect your beliefs about how Hyde helped you become the person you are. I don't question your sincerity. I've met other Hyde grads who feel as you do.

But none of this takes away from the hard, cold fact that Hyde was absolutely NOT the right place for me or many people I knew there. None of what you say takes away from the hard, cold fact that Hyde is also a school that has mistreated many people, emotionally abused many people, and mishandled both students and parents. What is indisputable is that Hyde is not able to meet the needs of many of the students who end up there, and that is very costly emotionally and financially. It certainly was for me and my family.

My family will NEVER forgive the incompetent Hyde staff we met, the staff who were abusive, the staff who didn't have the slightest clue about how to handle some of the deeply troubled kids who get sent there, the Hyde staff who preached one thing and then did another.

I'll be the first to admit that Hyde may "work" for some kids, like you. But I'll also be first in line to scream to anyone who will listen that Hyde is the worst possible school for too many students there. If Hyde only accepted students who fit your description, my guess is that it would have a tiny fraction of its current number of students. Hyde needs to fill beds, so it deludes itself and everyone else that it can handle all the students it admits. No way. So many of the Hyde teachers and others who were there when I was there didn't have the training, experience, or maturity to provide students what they really need. For that, Hyde needs to be exposed. It's fine to publicize success stories like yours, but Hyde also should be honest and admit its unbelievable shortcomings and failures.

Have you read the dozens of stories by people posting here about their horrific Hyde experiences, teacher scandals, mistreatment, etc.? Maybe you think all of this is exaggerated. I don't think it is.

Truth over harmony, right?
 
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Ursus:
I've been thinking about blove82's post, and wondering whether blove82 might not regret ever having posted said musings, given the apparent hornet's nest she/he seems to have wandered into.  Clearly quite a lot of people are less than happy with their or their family's experience of Hyde, and have seen fit to express it.

But there was an earnest and perhaps unassailable core, namely:

--- Quote from: ""blove82"" ---I want my life to have a purpose, I want honesty, humility, integrity, and all of those things to matter in my life, and they do.
--- End quote ---

I think all of us can relate to that sentiment, perhaps substituting some other qualities for the ones noted, perhaps not, but certainly, at any rate, laudable attributes can be called to mind that one might strive for...

I think many of us, and/or many of our parents, were attracted to Hyde for seemingly idealistic reasons.  And whether or not this was the original attraction or incentive, it certainly figured into the equation before commitment to attend was finalized.

Consequently, I think a good deal of the anger, certainly in my case it contributes significantly, stems from the blatant dishonesty and hypocrisy that Hyde operates under.  You could say Hyde doesn't put its money where its mouth is.  Time and time again, what is said and what is done do not appear to be originating from the same source...

Another source of much MUCH anger stems from actual destructive acts that Hyde has engaged in.  One can attribute ignorance or obtuseness to but some of these.  In an appallingly great number of cases, it certainly would appear, and certainly is experienced as such by the victims, as wanton and vindictive acts.  While I am sure that said descriptive cannot be applied to all cases, one thing is for sure:  when threatened, Hyde closes ranks and protects their own, regardless of what they did, or the truth of the matter, or the consequences of their actions on the kids they have been entrusted to.

And what, pray tell, rends the qualifying distinction of "their own?"  They who spout the party line.  Period.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---So many of the Hyde teachers and others who were there when I was there didn't have the training, experience, or maturity to provide students what they really need.
--- End quote ---


Its not just a question of training or maturity, its the philosophy of the place that they think they can tell you how to judge your life.  Or anyone's life, for that matter.  And that gets pretty hairy sometimes, when mistakes are made.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---I've been thinking about blove82's post, and wondering whether blove82 might not regret ever having posted said musings, given the apparent hornet's nest she/he seems to have wandered into.  Clearly quite a lot of people are less than happy with their or their family's experience of Hyde, and have seen fit to express it.

But there was an earnest and perhaps unassailable core, namely:

--- Quote from: ""blove82"" ---I want my life to have a purpose, I want honesty, humility, integrity, and all of those things to matter in my life, and they do.
--- End quote ---
I think all of us can relate to that sentiment, perhaps substituting some other qualities for the ones noted, perhaps not, but certainly, at any rate, laudable attributes can be called to mind that one might strive for...

I think many of us, and/or many of our parents, were attracted to Hyde for seemingly idealistic reasons.  And whether or not this was the original attraction or incentive, it certainly figured into the equation before commitment to attend was finalized.

Consequently, I think a good deal of the anger, certainly in my case it contributes significantly, stems from the blatant dishonesty and hypocrisy that Hyde operates under.  You could say Hyde doesn't put its money where its mouth is.  Time and time again, what is said and what is done do not appear to be originating from the same source...

Another source of much MUCH anger stems from actual destructive acts that Hyde has engaged in.  One can attribute ignorance or obtuseness to but some of these.  In an appallingly great number of cases, it certainly would appear, and certainly is experienced as such by the victims, as wanton and vindictive acts.  While I am sure that said descriptive cannot be applied to all cases, one thing is for sure:  when threatened, Hyde closes ranks and protects their own, regardless of what they did, or the truth of the matter, or the consequences of their actions on the kids they have been entrusted to.

And what, pray tell, rends the qualifying distinction of "their own?"  They who spout the party line.  Period.
--- End quote ---


As you say, "many of us, and/or many of our parents, were attracted to Hyde for seemingly idealistic reasons.  And whether or not this was the original attraction or incentive, it certainly figured into the equation before commitment to attend was finalized."

That certainly describes what happened to my family.  The Hyde pamphlets said all the right things.  It also sound pretty good during the interviews.  

It took us about two months to figure out that Hyde is full of itself and full of the kind of stark hypocrisy you point out in your comments.  During our Hyde experience we encountered instance after instance of teachers and students who didn't even come close to the Hyde ideals.  In fact, often they were downright polar opposites.  Once we realized how hypocritical and incompetent many Hyde personnel are, we decided to head for the hills.

Oz girl:
This poster mentions she was 15 upon entering hyde and there for 5 years. If hyde is a high school why would it keep a 20 yr old young adult. Wouldnt this not stunt the young persons emotional development somewhat.
Arent most American kids in their second year of Uni by this age?

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