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Offline Anonymous

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Suicide at AAA
« on: May 08, 2007, 10:33:21 PM »
Is anyone aware that a student killed himself at Aspen Academy in Southern Utah recently?
This is rumored to be the same location used for the upcoming Brat-Camp series.
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I hope not
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2007, 03:23:28 PM »
I hope this is not true. My son recently graduated from this Aspen location. Things were pretty good for him there.
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Possibly Not
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2007, 03:36:24 PM »
I heard it form someone who also recently graduated from there and she tells a lot of stories so it might not be true. Your son would probably know.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2007, 03:38:14 PM »
It's certainly possible considering what others have posted about Aspen's Cedu-redeux  style of "treatment". Here's a link to the ISAC page Aspen Achievement Academy. You may also want to read Psy's website regarding Benchmark another Cedu-clone - Benchmark Exposed.
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Looks like it happened a long time ago
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2007, 05:14:00 PM »
The Isac site says it happened years ago and was just an attempt. Some kid jumped off a cliff..... nutz.
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Suicide at AAA
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2007, 05:30:34 PM »
Yeah guest, but thats not what the first guest is talking about.
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I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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Suicide at AAA
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2007, 05:52:33 PM »
Here is some more reference information on Aspen Achievement Academy.  It is good information for parents thinking about wilderness.

Click here
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2007, 07:09:31 PM »
AAA was already "featured" in brat camp the british version which involved only girls.
-One girl was subject to "pain compliance" for over 2 hrs. This involved staff twisting both her wrists
-One girl got sat on in a restraint and had her arm twisted up her back
-One girl was still not allowed to eat cooked food after about 2 weeks in spite of being completely compliant, even enthusiastic. This was because she did nto master the art of fire making
-The girls were strip searched
-The girls were allowed to "confront" a difficult girl until she started cutting herself & the therapist was called
-One staff member told an already angry girl to hit him repeatedly till she did. He then restrained her.
-One girl who took a lot of speed exhibited withdrawral symptoms which included flu like symptoms. At no point did they decide that a proper medically supervised drug rehab was better

I cant imagine what they failed to show!!!!
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Yes, death at Aspen
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2007, 10:33:00 PM »
A student hung himself with the strap used for collecting wood.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2007, 10:34:29 PM »
Good for him.

At least now, no matter what happens, he'll never have to worry about reliving nightmares from the humiliation of being sent to Aspen.

R. I. P.

Hopefully he'll have better parents the next time around.
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I believe that Aspen settled for a large amount
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2007, 02:01:27 AM »
I'm fairly certain that the boy's family settled for a large amount with Aspen.

These settlements inevitably include a hush agreement. How many are there?

This is one of the many reasons why Aspen is most insidious of corporate owners of these programs.  they have plenty of money to shell out for settlements, unlike nearly all the others.
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Suicide at AAA
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2007, 02:10:29 AM »
Anyone have the mom's phone number?

'Cause I wanna call her up and ask her how much her dead kid was worth.
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Re: Yes, death at Aspen
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2007, 11:53:27 AM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
A student hung himself with the strap used for collecting wood.


When?
Was there anything in the media? Any documentation- DHS investigation, police report?
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very hush hush
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2007, 03:29:07 PM »
It happened this year. No name. See Hurly's comments, they are very accurate.
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Thank you for the affirmation dear Guest!
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2007, 04:34:11 PM »
IThank you for the affirmation dear Guest!

Very hush hush is right.

Aspen's  extremely manipulative marketing/business m.o. so pervasive and convincing that I believe that there are people even on this list who continue to believe that Aspen doesn't use the same b.m. torture that WWASPS, Provo, et al, do.  Their programs do vary and there are some (leaving out all the "due process" and their outrageous fees, un or under qualified staff, and lack of oversight) that are useful for a few of  types of diagnoses - mostly Asperger's types of conditions and a few others. I won't go into that now but as a former therapist I've been thinking a lot about when a restrictive structured environment (regulated, with well qualified staff, and due process, access to the world etc... ) might be warranted.
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