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TheWho:

--- Quote ---You also appear to be trying to make the definition youre listing the only criteria needed to be classified as "special needs".
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No I said if your child doesnt fall under the guide lines of the state and you want your son/daughter defined as "Special needs" you can challenge the results.  That is why they add the clause "and not limited too"  because there are always excepts to the testing.  The testing is the first cut and covers the lions share of the definition.

Troll Control:

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--- Quote ---That would appear to meet the definition would it not?
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We can all sit here and speculate who falls under the definition of "Special Needs".  But the state gets the final say.  Not you or me or ASR.
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Yes, just like the state had the final say when it cited ASR twice for violating the law.

Funny how you tried to have the final say on that one, huh?

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---We can all sit here and speculate who falls under the definition of "Special Needs". But the state gets the final say. Not you or me or ASR.
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We don't need to speculate, they spell it out for us quite clearly.


--- Quote ---A Child with special needs is a child who, because of a disability consisting of a developmental delay or an emotional, communication, specific learning impairment or combination thereof, is or would be unable to progress effectively in a regular school program. This may include, but not be limited to a school age child with special needs as determined by an evaluation conducted pursuant to M.G.L. c. 71B, § 3, and as defined by the Department of Education in 603 CMR 28.00.
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Would you agree that this definition of those kids suited to a TBS would meet that definition. I'm asking for your opinion not anything the state says.


--- Quote ---Therapeutic boarding schools specialize in educating troubled teens struggling with behavior, emotional issues, or academics. Boarding schools that specialize in troubled teens offer these teens the opportunity to focus on school and receive individualized attention.
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--- Quote ---No I said if your child doesnt fall under the guide lines of the state and you want your son/daughter defined as "Special needs" you can challenge the results. That is why they add the clause "and not limited too" because there are always excepts to the testing. The testing is the first cut and covers the lions share of the definition.
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Okay so we can then agree that the state lays out clear cut terms in addition to providing some sort of test for parents who feel their child didnt fall under the primary definition. So we can then also agree that ASR is providing services to kids who meet the primary definition. Correct?

Deborah:

--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---
--- Quote ---That would appear to meet the definition would it not?
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We can all sit here and speculate who falls under the definition of "Special Needs".  But the state gets the final say.  Not you or me or ASR.
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Yes, they do.


--- Quote ---Special Services are any services provided to children with special needs by a private residential school that are special education services similar to those referred to at 603 CMR 18.05(3)(a) and (b); or social, psychological or psychiatric services; or self-help skills or activities of daily living training.

A Child with special needs is a child who, because of a disability consisting of a developmental delay or an emotional, communication, specific learning impairment or combination thereof, is or would be unable to progress effectively in a regular school program. This may include, but not be limited to, a school age child with special needs as determined by an evaluation conducted pursuant to M.G.L. c. 71B, § 3, and as defined by the Department of Education in 603 CMR 28.00.
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Now we know that ASR claims to teach social/self-help skills and provides psych services and assessments. We also know that they advertise to treat a host of psych disorders from the DSM manual. They claim to specialize in kids with "emotional, communication, specific learning impairment or combination thereof".

What's so hard about understanding this. And NO, the state doesn't come in and test the kids in RTCs to see if they're special needs unless the kid is a resident of the state and it's been requested or required by their IEP.

There is some other reason ASR remains unlicensed and I believe the answer is in the documentation resulting from the negotiation with the attorneys from ASR and EEC. That documentation should be mined from the archives of EEC if we are to really know why EEC backed off. Perhaps ASR threatened to sue them, and without documented evidence, EEC backed off. Not uncommon. We need a parent(s) with recent dealings with ASR to provide documentation to EEC. Anyone reading willing to do that? PM me for details.

hanzomon4:
We've settled this and the state agreed(ed) with us. Just because ASR wants it "Both Ways" don't make it legal. They serve kids with special needs with special services. If they claim that this isn't so then they're running afoul of the law by making group therapy mandatory and using rule exemptions as defined in the regulations I posted.

Deborah, can someone just call EEC and ask for the details regarding ASR licensing(or lack thereof)?

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