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Academy at Swift River - Split from TTI
Deborah:
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The old, Documented evidence without the documents statement. This is getting old....show us the Documents
I heard the report praised ASR for having an outstanding program and the state is in the process of using ASR as a model for pilot programs in a few of their high schools. But I guess you just forgot to mention that little piece of information.
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Sooooo. HLA received a Commendation from a Senator. Boy, isn't she re-evaluating. Anyone, ANYone can pull a scam... until they get caught.
It's a bitch you have no allies, but stop posting anon, Who. That's manipulating the readers, and totally 'out of agreement'. Sounds like you might need a year-and-a-half living in isolation from your family and subjected to the most perverse forms of BM.
Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I have to go with thewho on this one. Anyone can write that and claim it came from a paper.
Show him the link !!
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Oh dear lord, he's gone schizzy again. Talking about himself in third person.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---Funny you mention that. According to the licenser I spoke with today the 30% rule came about because of ASR's whining. See the last time OCCS came in, they found ASR in violation of several laws and cited them stating they needed to become licensed as a RCF. ASR cried to the legesilature and got them to enact this 30% law. It worked back then only because ASR had literally just opened their doors and special needs was soley considered kids with IEP's. Thankfully the law has caught up with them and special needs encompasses so much more. ASR will not be able to hide behind anything this time and neither will you Who.
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So you really believe that some person crying at the front desk saying: “Please don’t write us up, I’ll lose my job if you do” would be enough to change the laws in Massachusetts?
You also mentioned that this occurred when ASR” literally opened their doors” as you stated…..hmmmmmm. So lets see…….ASR started up, opened their doors and had the EEC (as it is called now) come over to visit, found some violations, ASR corrected them and now, a decade or 2 later, you are having heart burn with it. I still haven’t seen the report citing these violations or if they exist, but if they occurred at start up, why bother?
If a violation occurred 10 or 20 years ago don’t you think they would have follow-up and verified if they made changes? And if they haven’t followed up why would turning over control to the state in the form of regulation to these people make our kids any safer?
This is nuts! What newspaper did this come from …… this just doesn’t pass the sniff test
Troll Control:
This is the most accurate information available. Until someone offers proof that the events in the article didn't happen or that the reporter was lying, it's what we'll go with.
I know it gets TheWho bent out of shape to be proven wrong on this but I never thought he'd go off the deep end editing out key parts of the regs to hide them because ASR is in violation. Ha,Ha,Ha...that's just too funny when he does things like that just to push an agenda.
But these facts won't go away. ASR has been cited in violation of at least two laws. I think we've established that beyond doubt and everyone is comfortable with it here.
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---It was an article writtem by Stepanie Kraft for the Valley Advocate. It's archived on cafety.org.
So this is where we're at until someone can show otherwise:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Ha,Ha,Ha... I'm not going to do your busy work. If you have documents that show otherwise, post them.
We have already established these facts and I think everyone is comfortable with where we're at in this debate:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---[/u]"OCCS also cited the school for monitoring students' telephone calls and mail. The agency said that the right to privacy incommunications, even for juveniles, can be restricted only by court order -- for example (editing note: this is exactly the argument TheWho used earlier in the thread and it's 100% illegal!), if a therapist believes that the teen's communication should be monitored, perhaps to support a young person through a crisis in relations with his orher family -- and then only temporarily."[/u]
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Sorry, Who, but these are the facts. I guess you can take it up with OCCS and investigator Lieberman and try to change the records Ha,Ha,Ha...
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I know you get mad mad about this, Who, but you can't change history and the state's records to suit your agenda...Ha,Ha,Ha. You'll have to take this up with the state if you don't like their ruling, not fornits! Do your own work, I'm not going to do it for you. Ha,Ha, Ha...
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If someone was a convicted rapist, would you not believe rape was against the law unless someone posted the actual law that says it is? That's absurd.
The fact that ASR was cited by state officials for breaking the law is ipso facto proof that the law exists.
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This is the most direct source we have stating the facts about the state's inspection of ASR resulting in at least two citations for violating the law.
I think we're all comfortable with the state's findings and the journalist's accurate reporting of it. We all agree.
So this is where we're at until we see some proof that the journalist was lying about the state's two citations.
I know certain people would like to say that the reporter was lying in the article, but they'll have to take it up with her or the state. We have established that these events took place and that the record is clear.[/quote]
Let's move on... As soon as Who talks with the reporter and establishes that she was lying about the content of the article we will revisit. Time to move on to other items.
This has been fun, Ha,Ha,Ha...just kidding.
TheWho:
--- Quote ---As soon as Who talks with the reporter and establishes that she was lying about the content of the article we will revisit.
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State violations are public record......... Hmmmm how come there is no record?
"Breaking news, The power has gone out at ASR, I am here live now in front of the student lounge and if the phones lines are not up in the next 10 minutes I predict a major violation of communication of EEC code 3.07 Part 9 will occur. I will verify this myself, no need for paperwork or filing for public record purposes... this Amy Cross, signing off from Cummington, MA..... over to you Herb..... Thanks Amy, things are getting wild over there......................
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