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Academy at Swift River - Split from TTI
Troll Control:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---Okay, lets get the details of the law. Look at the different ways they can be applied, exemptions etc.and see how ASR sizes up against what the state defines as requirements.
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Already done. See previous post. It's illegal to restrict a juvenile's communication without a court order, period.
--- Quote ---I believe they are presently under the rules of a boarding school so I would start there.
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Yep. And they're also in violation of the law. They were already cited for this law violation by the state.
Got that issue cleared up. Let's move on. Further yapping about it can't change the public record of their blatant violations of childrens' rights under the law.
Next topic.
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Wow... five more pages of ::blah:: and ::argue:: today; how productive. :roll:
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You wouldn't be trying to discourage dialog, would you? Just don't click on this thread if it's not of interest to you. I'm curious though, what you consider "productive"?
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Hell, I could turn the same question around and put it to you!
And no I'm not "trying to discourage dialog" fraulein, i swear I'm not (perhaps an interrogation is in order?) because there is plenty of good dialogue as well as good trolling here. I like to peek in to see what's going on regardless. Maybe I just find all of this back-and-forth to be a bit of a waste.
Am I the only one who sees things this way? It would be much more productive to ignore TheWho most of time! What about starting another thread with the evidence and research you put forth instead of giving this flagrant douchebag the constant satisfaction of a reply?? :lol:
I think you spank him well, Deborah... but after a while it must get tiresome, even for you.... :rofl:
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:rofl: :tup: ::whip::
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--- Quote from: ""RobertBruce"" ---And what you keep carefully avoiding is that Child Services of Massachusettess already told them they needed to become licensed as a RTC and ASR advertises as a theraputic boarding school.
If they arent should we add false advertisement to the list of infractions?
Neither they nor you can have it both ways.
If they are an TBS as they claim they are required to have a hotline for kids to report abuse.
If they are a traditional boarding school as only you claim then they are forbidden by law to restrict or monitor communications.
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This issue is settled. They're classified as a "school" and they are violation of the law, one they've already been found to be breaking. Doesn't matter what TheWho says, the state has already ruled on this subject.
Next topic!
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---You are correct, Robert.
--- Quote ---"DSS passed the information on to the state Office of Child Care Services, which sent an investigator, Eric Lieberman, to the academy.
Academy administrators told Lieberman it was true that students were denied sleep for 19 or 20 hours during the first LifeStep session, called "The Truth." Staff and students might stay up all night, then break for a nap between 5 and 7 a.m., then continue the session until 2 the next afternoon, the administrators said.
It (OCCS) cited the school for"using behavior management techniques which subject students to verbal abuse, ridicule and humiliation, denial ofsufficient sleep, and repetitive exercise as a response to an infraction of a rule."
OCCS also cited the school for monitoring students' telephone calls and mail. The agency said that the right to privacy incommunications, even for juveniles, can be restricted only by court order -- for example (editing note: this is exactly the argument TheWho used earlier in the thread and it's 100% illegal!), if a therapist believes that the teen's communication should be monitored, perhaps to support a young person through a crisis in relations with his orher family -- and then only temporarily.
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This is undeniable proof that ASR is willingly, wontonly and intentionally breaking a law which absolutely does apply to them - and they've been doing it for years.
So this puts this issue to rest. Not only is ASR breaking the law, they've already been cited for it. Thanks for contacting ASR, Who and posting the results of your conversation. You've incriminated them. They must be thrilled about your being their field representative/mouthpiece!
You were saying, Who? :roll:
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You are welcome guest!!
The only way any of us can effect change is to question the present conditions and try to get them to improve. Business is a ever evolving process of continual improvement.
ASR is presently meeting all their obligations as far as the law goes, I think we have established that. There are a few who interpret the law differently which is the American way. If enough people feel alike then a vote is taken and the laws are ajusted to suit the majority.
I think everyone is comfortable with where we ended up. Dialog is always healthy.
TheWho:
Ha,Ha,Ha,......ya gotta love fornits.
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