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Paul St. John:
I find it ironic that with one post you tell me my beliefs are delusional and then tell me to let people hold on to their beliefs.
And I find it fucked up, that you use your beliefs as a license, to act like a complete dickhead to people who are just trying to get their stories out there.
I'm not inflicting pain on anyone. I have not personally attacked people as I have been personally attack.
You have a way about you Tim, that bothers me a lot. Your personally type is designed to shut people down, who are experienceing honest introspection. Haven t these people suffered enough? Can t you leave them alone? Is this really what your god wants of you?
Your post is very arrogant.
I could see how it could be viewed that way..
But it is also sound and legitimate.
You assume that I haven't heard any of the things you think you can tell me that would crush my beliefs.
I.m just gonna leave all that alone for now, Tim.
But we're not talking about religious beliefs on this forum are we?
Can I reserve the right to quote you on that, as necessary?
We're talking about people who claim they were abused. I have already admitted that it has happened in some isolated cases in the Roloff homes. I have also explained that it was by people not acting in accordance to any established policy of the ministry. I am here now, and have been here for many years during different times in the past. I know what I know, you just assume that you know. You assume based on the testimony of others. Here's what I propose Paul. Instead of blindly believing what your told, (which is what you believe I am doing) check it out for yourself, come down to Corpus Christi Texas and pay a little visit. Go on a tour, ask the people in the homes questions. I dare you. Then come back to me and debate me about the validity of the claims that I have called into question here.
I have a pretty good sense of people Tim. I don't think that these people are lying.. You should get out of their way, and leave them alone!
I have a suggestion for you. Before you go claiming that I'm self righteous, learn what it means to remove the beam from your own eye before you remove the sliver from mine.
I'm fully content with the beam from my eye. If you lose the silver form yours so easily, maybe something wasn t right to begin with..
DannyB II:
Paul your done, leave and pick your ass up as your going out the door. Trust me buddy you have never fought a wild boar or bear, you have to have heart and balls for that and you gave them up a long time ago.
Give you a hint, lill kimmy may know.
aliciakeys:
Danny how many brothers and sisters do you have?
Paul St. John:
--- Quote from: "DannyB II" ---Paul your done, leave and pick your ass up as your going out the door.
Right......
Trust me buddy you have never fought a wild boar or bear, you have to have heart and balls for that and you gave them up a long time ago.
HAHAHA ! Am I really Reading this?
Sometimes, I think you drop acid before writing a lot of your posts, Danny. I don't need to trust you, Danny.. I already know that I don t fight wild animals, or trained ones, for that matter.
Give you a hint, lill kimmy may know.
Give you a hint- Stop trying to brain fuck me. It ain t gonna work., Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself?
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DannyB II:
--- Quote from: "Paul St. John" ---I find it ironic that with one post you tell me my beliefs are delusional and then tell me to let people hold on to their beliefs.
And I find it fucked up, that you use your beliefs as a license, to act like a complete dickhead to people who are just trying to get their stories out there.
Why are you being disrespectful to this man, this is exactly what I am talking about. Paul are you this hateful that your vindictiveness cannot be controlled. You folks here ask me why..??????? This is why.
I'm not inflicting pain on anyone. I have not personally attacked people as I have been personally attack.
You have a way about you Tim, that bothers me a lot. Your personally type is designed to shut people down, who are experienceing honest introspection. Haven t these people suffered enough? Can t you leave them alone? Is this really what your god wants of you?
and what are you doing right now????????
"Your personally type" typo.....???
Your post is very arrogant.
I could see how it could be viewed that way..
But it is also sound and legitimate.
....according to who Paul, who say's it is legit or sound. You?????
You assume that I haven't heard any of the things you think you can tell me that would crush my beliefs.
I.m just gonna leave all that alone for now, Tim.
No your not, your all up in it right now.
But we're not talking about religious beliefs on this forum are we?
Can I reserve the right to quote you on that, as necessary?
Jeesh, like we have a choice.
We're talking about people who claim they were abused. I have already admitted that it has happened in some isolated cases in the Roloff homes. I have also explained that it was by people not acting in accordance to any established policy of the ministry. I am here now, and have been here for many years during different times in the past. I know what I know, you just assume that you know. You assume based on the testimony of others. Here's what I propose Paul. Instead of blindly believing what your told, (which is what you believe I am doing) check it out for yourself, come down to Corpus Christi Texas and pay a little visit. Go on a tour, ask the people in the homes questions. I dare you. Then come back to me and debate me about the validity of the claims that I have called into question here.
I have a pretty good sense of people Tim. I don't think that these people are lying.. You should get out of their way, and leave them alone!
No you don't Paul, you just don't like Tim expressing his opinion/beliefs here. They contradict what your saying. You have a good sense of people, your good sense and 1 dollar still won't buy you a cup of coffee.
I have a suggestion for you. Before you go claiming that I'm self righteous, learn what it means to remove the beam from your own eye before you remove the sliver from mine.
I'm fully content with the beam from my eye. If you lose the silver form yours so easily, maybe something wasn t right to begin with..
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He wrote sliver.
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