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Whooter:

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--- Quote from: "Anne Bonney" ---Then feel free to dismiss my opinion.  That's all it is and I was upfront about not having personal knowledge of Roloff's.  Thank god.  I'd rather have been abused and brainwashed by the sadists at Straight than the religious zealots at Roloff's.
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Wow. This is interesting. First you say you have no personal knowledge of Roloff's then you parrot the stories told here as if they are absolutely proven facts.
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BINGO!!!!   DING DING DING!!!!    We have a winner!!


Because they all use pretty much the same confrontational approach.  The same isolation from the real world.  Isolation from family.  Groupthink. etc.


Finally, they're getting it!!!!
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[Citation]

Any type of study that you can refer to that supports this?



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Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Any type of study that you can refer to that supports this?



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Sure....just as soon as you cite your source for where I said that I exaggerated the abuse that I suffered at Straight and that programs actually do help people.

And as soon as you cite the "study" you referred to...


--- Quote ---Whooter wrote: The recent independent study which was overseen by a third (independent oversight organization) which upholds the conclusions from those internal studies you have been turning your nose up at all these years.
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Whooter:

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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Any type of study that you can refer to that supports this?



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Sure....just as soon as you cite your source for where I said that I exaggerated the abuse that I suffered at Straight and that programs actually do help people.

And as soon as you cite the "study" you referred to...


--- Quote ---Whooter wrote: The recent independent study which was overseen by a third (independent oversight organization) which upholds the conclusions from those internal studies you have been turning your nose up at all these years.
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Ha,Ha,Ha  See we knew you made it up Anne, just checking.  The study I have posted several times this month and I will put it up again, give me a few minutes.  The other link you know I am holding off on until you provide proof that I support all programs.  You tried with the JRC link and that failed because everyone reading knows I posted several times that I had not made up my mind on that process yet.



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Anne Bonney:

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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Any type of study that you can refer to that supports this?



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Sure....just as soon as you cite your source for where I said that I exaggerated the abuse that I suffered at Straight and that programs actually do help people.

And as soon as you cite the "study" you referred to...


--- Quote ---Whooter wrote: The recent independent study which was overseen by a third (independent oversight organization) which upholds the conclusions from those internal studies you have been turning your nose up at all these years.
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Ha,Ha,Ha  See we knew you made it up Anne, just checking.  The study I have posted several times this month and I will put it up again, give me a few minutes.  The other link you know I am holding off on until you provide proof that I support all programs.  You tried with the JRC link and that failed because everyone reading knows I posted several times that I had not made up my mind on that process yet.
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Ah...pussying out again huh?  Ah well, par for the course.

Whooter:
Sorry to burst your bubble Anne... Read it and weep:

The following Study was presented at  the Annual Convention of the
American Psychological Association at New Orleans, Louisiana, August, 2006 .

The study covered about 1,000 kids who graduated from programs and parents of the kids.

There was an independent Board which approved the research and audited the study for any conflicts of interest.

Link to Study


So now are you ready to accept that you have stated :  Programs help the majority of kids and that you embellished your own story here on fornits at times just to win an argument?

You know you cant win if you challenge me to provide the link.

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