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Lester Roloffs Rebekah Home for Girls Survivors-Cult-mindcon
TimScrivener:
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--- Quote from: "TimScrivener" ---I don't agree that spanking a child with a paddle is abuse. I do agree if you cause physical damage it is abuse. I personally don't believe they should have paddled anyone in the homes for the simple reason that abuses can occur. Maybe even by well meaning people. I've actually seen it myself. But this was the exception to the rule and not the normal operation. I know that there were times in the Homes that some people that were not qualified were in charge. I also know that most of the people that went through the homes benefited from it. Like myself and hundreds like me.
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Psych professionals might disagree with you re. whether "spanking a child with a paddle is abuse." Probably a fair number of parents, too. It has to do with violating and disrespecting a person's autonomy, of which physical boundaries are one aspect.
If children learn best by example, what does this teach?
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Depends on if you do it in love and explain why or if you are just beating them because your pissed. And, I really don't care what any "phych professionals" have to say about it.
Whooter:
As long as you are consistent with your discipline and don’t react out of anger then it really doesn’t matter if you choose to spank or not. There are many methods that are equally affective depending on the individual parenting style. There is a lot of information and arguments out there on pro and anti-spanking. Just beware of the fringe groups who want to reach into your home and tell you how to raise your child, like “nospank”, who are unable (or unwilling) to see both sides of the argument. Some are a little concerning in their views and how they would like to enforce them.
People should be able to choose for themselves.
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DannyB II:
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Sorry, I have little patience for overly zealous religious nutbags who think what happened at Roloff's was healthy.
Tim wrote:
I have less patience for overly zealous victims who call people names just because they don't agree with them. I was in the Lighthouse home, and the City of Refuge, and I was a farm worker, and I'm a member of People's Baptist Church now. What's your experience with the Homes?
Anne wrote:
None. What I've read here (edited to add: and research I've done on the methods used at Roloff's) and being in a similar, albeit less religious, program. Read the post by "notworking" that I just bumped up.
Tim wrote:
Ah, I see. So you've never been there but you know better what has happened there than myself who has been there off and on from 1981. I live here now. Instead of drinking the Koolaid, why not come down to Corpus Christi, Texas and take a look for yourself? I know you won't, because God forbid you be proven wrong.
I know that just like any organization run by people, not everything that has gone on there over the years was always right. Having said that, I also know that most of the people who have been to the Homes here have had good experiences and not bad. It's just that the ones that have bad experiences are more inclined to come on a forum like this and talk about their experience. As I have read through I have seen several that are positive. I'm sure you conveniently tell yourself that these are the ones that the brainwashing was successful. Yet, as you say, you have never been here. So then it's just your preference to choose to believe what you want, with absolutely no proof.
Anne wrote:
Ok.....you just seemed desperate for someone, ANYone, to respond. You come here occasionally and post, no one replies so you come back and post again...no one replies, you post again. You seem to have wanted someone to reply, so I did.
I posted my belief about Roloff's from what I've read here, other places and research on their methods. You don't agree with my assessment. Ok.
btw.....did you read the post by "notworking"?
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Danny wrote:
Anne at her finest, attacking posters.
Anne wrote:
"Sorry, I have little patience for overly zealous religious nutbags who think what happened at Roloff's was healthy".
Tim wrote:
I have less patience for overly zealous victims who call people names just because they don't agree with them.
Tim wrote:
What experience do you have with Lester Roloff homes.
Anne wrote:
"None". What I've read here (edited to add: and) research I've done on the methods used at Roloff's) being in a similar, albeit less religious, program. Read the post by "notworking" that I just bumped up.
Danny wrote:
1) "None" no experience with Roloff Homes".....
2) "What I've read "here".....
3) "research I've done on the methods used at Roloffs.....
4) "being in a similar, albeit less religious, program"......
5) "Read the post by "notworking"....
Summation:
First and foremost Anne has no ("none") experience concerning Roloffs homes.
Anne gathered all her information (from here) included a post from "notworking" (from here), her research came (from here).
While at Straight she experienced some spirituality albeit it was less religious.
Why are you bothering this man, he is trying to share his experience.
What have you got, Nada.
Anne, you just can't stand it when someone has a different opinion.
Danny
Whooter:
lol, classic.
Ya gotta love this place.
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Anne Bonney:
Then feel free to dismiss my opinion. That's all it is and I was upfront about not having personal knowledge of Roloff's. Thank god. I'd rather have been abused and brainwashed by the sadists at Straight than the religious zealots at Roloff's.
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