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« on: March 30, 2007, 04:29:22 PM »
http://www.placeofskulls.com/posalicecooper.htm

Alice Cooper

If you want to shock the world of Rock 'n Roll, don't play with live snakes during a concert, live for Jesus instead! 70's rocker Alice Cooper has done both and talks about Jesus, Satan and Marylin Manson.

Rock star Alice Cooper shocked the world in the 1970s with an alcohol-fueled stage show that explored taboos ranging from murder to necrophilia. Years later he shocked the rock world by quietly embracing Christianity.

Cooper has rarely talked about his faith, but in an exclusive October, 2000 interview with Lonn Friend, editor of the on-line rock magazine KNAC.COM, Cooper spoke at length about his drinking days, faith in God, and views on the shock-rockers who are following in his footsteps.

Cooper said he was introduced to alcohol when he began his music career, and drank heavily for the next 15 years. "I was a totally functional alcoholic, probably the most functional alcoholic ever. I never missed a show. I never stumbled. I never slurred a word. I mean I was the Dean Martin of rock n' roll," he told KNAC.COM.

Cooper said divine intervention is what broke his drinking habit in the mid-1980s. "I honestly think I was simply and completely healed," he said. "I guess you can call it a miracle. It's the only way I can explain it. It was absolutely eliminated from my life."

Cooper has often been called the model for today's shock-rockers, including Marilyn Manson. While he doesn't criticize Manson for his on-stage theatrics, Cooper takes issue with Manson's anti-Christian stance.

"He's very vocal about it," Cooper told KNAC.COM. "I believe [the Manson album] AntiChrist Superstar was pointed right directly at me. I didn't volley the first shots in this whole thing. His whole anti-Christian thing, and I'm like 'Hey, I'm Christian, and I'm not going to denounce what I believe.' I can be a rock 'n' roll star, a Christian and Alice Cooper."

Cooper continued, "I think Marilyn had a really bad Christian experience when he was younger. My guess is he got involved with some less-than-Christian-Christians and that really, forgive the expression, nailed him. You know, he's one of the greatest button pushers I've ever met. And I know that game because I invented that game...Manson clicked because he found a whole new set of buttons to push, he even pushed my buttons, which is pretty impressive since I was pushing buttons before he was born."

Cooper's embrace of Christianity was more a return to faith than a coming to faith. "I was pretty much convinced all my life that there was just one God and there was Jesus Christ and there was the Devil," he said."

You couldn't believe in God without believing in the Devil. I always tell bands that the most dangerous thing you can do is to believe in the concept of the Devil or the concept of God, because you're not giving them full credit. When you believe in God, you've got to believe in the all-powerful God. He's not just God, He's the all-powerful God and He has total control over everyone's life. The Devil, on the other hand, is a real character that's trying his hardest to tear your life apart. If you believe that this is just mythology, you're a prime target because you know that's exactly what Satan wants: To be a myth. But he's not a myth, of this I'm totally convinced. More than anything in the world, I'm convinced of that."

Cooper continued, "We have to make a choice. And everybody, at some point in their lives, has to make that choice. When people say, 'How do you believe this? Why do you believe this?' I just say nothing else speaks to my heart. This doesn't speak to my intellect, it doesn't speak to my logic - it speaks right to my heart and right to my soul, deeper than anything I've ever thought of. And I totally believe it. That being said, I'm not a very good Christian. I mean, none of us are ever 'good' Christians. That's not the point. When you're a Christian, it doesn't mean you're gonna be good, it means you've got a harder road to pull."

Though some have questioned combining his faith in God with his rock-and-roll background, Cooper doesn't see a conflict. "I'm the first one to rock as loud as I can, but when it comes to what I believe, I'm the first one to defend it too," he said. "It has also gotten me in trouble with the staunch Christians who believe that in order to be a Christian you have to be on your knees 24 hours a day in a closet somewhere. Hey, maybe some people can live like that, but I don't think that's the way God expected us to live. When Christ came back, He hung out with the whores, the drunks and miscreants because they were people that needed Him. Christ never spent His time with the Pharisees."

But while Cooper may still speak to some of his old themes, he has a new message today.

"I used to celebrate moral decay, the decadence of it," he admitted. "I can look back on what I did then and what I'm doing now and they're two different things. But at the time I was the poster boy for moral decay, you know. So yeah, I've got a lot to be forgiven for...out of ignorance, I thought I was doing the right thing. I was totally in agreement that every guy should sleep with every girl and drink as much as they can. I don't believe that now. I don't believe in it, because I see how destructive it is."

Spiritual awakening is happening around the world, Cooper believes. "It's obvious humanity is craving for answers directly born of awareness," he said. "That's the healthiest thing I've seen in a long time because there is something better and everybody's gotta find it in their own way. People aren't feeling fulfilled by how many cars they own or the size of their stock portfolio.

Even the addicts are saying, 'It doesn't matter how many drugs I take, I'm not fulfilled. This isn't satisfying.' There's a spiritual hunger going on. Everybody feels it. If you don't feel it now, you will. Trust me. You will."
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 09:40:50 PM »
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Man's got his woman to take his seed
He's got the power - oh
She's got the need
She spends her life through pleasing up her man
She feeds him dinner or anything she can

She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

Man makes your hair gray
He's your life's mistake
All you're really lookin' for is an even break

He lies right at you
You know you hate this game
He slaps you once in a while and you live and love in pain

She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

Black eyes all of the time
Don't spend a dime
Clean up this grime
And you there down on your knees begging me please come
Watch me bleed

Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed


This song was banned, having been misunderstood by some moral busy bodies to be about menstruation,  I find id tissapointing that Vincent Furnier attributes his moral guidance to an invisible friend.IIt lends false support to the idea that you can't be moral or compassionate or good without one. Even though we all know the next step in this dance is to start killing people for being friends with the wrong invisible friend.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2007, 10:04:06 PM »
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Man's got his woman to take his seed
He's got the power - oh
She's got the need
She spends her life through pleasing up her man
She feeds him dinner or anything she can

She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

Man makes your hair gray
He's your life's mistake
All you're really lookin' for is an even break

He lies right at you
You know you hate this game
He slaps you once in a while and you live and love in pain

She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

Black eyes all of the time
Don't spend a dime
Clean up this grime
And you there down on your knees begging me please come
Watch me bleed

Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed


This song was banned, having been misunderstood by some moral busy bodies to be about menstruation,  I find it dissapointing that Vincent Furnier attributes his moral guidance to an invisible friend. It lends false credence to the idea that you can't be moral or compassionate or good without one. Even though we all know the next step in this dance is to start killing people for being friends with the wrong invisible friend.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2007, 07:28:48 AM »
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I find it dissapointing that Vincent Furnier attributes his moral guidance to an invisible friend.

I don't get it.. where do the words say anything about god?
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2007, 07:32:05 AM »
Oh (I always realize this sort of thing after I post) you were referring to the OP with that comment, not the song.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2007, 07:51:46 AM »
I couldn't tell
If the bells were getting louder
The songs they ring I finally recognize
I only know
Hell is getting hotter
The Devil's getting smarter all the time

And it would be nice
To walk upon the water
To talk again to angels
On my side

Time is getting closer
I read it on a poster
Fanatical exposers
On corners prophesized

It would be nice
To walk upon the water
To talk again to angels
At my side

I just come back to show you
All my words are golden
So have no gods before me
I'm the light
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2007, 03:30:35 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
Oh (I always realize this sort of thing after I post) you were referring to the OP with that comment, not the song.


No, I was talking about the song, which clearly shows compassion and care for battered women but, as you note, doesn't mention God even once. It's an old song, from back in the day when Alice Cooper posters on a kids' bedroom wall was among the "signs of druggiedome" according to Art Barker.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2007, 01:36:02 PM »
The first album I ever bought was Alice Cooper's Greatest Hits. I was twelve. Fortunately, my Ps never confused blasting 'School's Out' over and over as being a drug related activity. They just figured I was twelve. 'Only Women Bleed' is on that album, as well as '18,' a true rock classic.

I never suspected Alice would sell out. His music helped fuel my skepticism. I find that is often that the pendelum swings. People who were once the wildest become the most fundamentalist. Just like people who quit smoking are the most rabid anti-smokers.

Bob Dylan and Alice Cooper became holy rollers. Sometimes I wish I could have stayed in the 60s and 70s. The clothes sucked, but the music was awesome. Those were more revolutionary days, indeed. 'Question Authority!'
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2007, 02:14:15 PM »
Well I think the clothes were pretty cool.
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