I agree. I want to clarify my earlier post too, that it is true that no program survivors posting on Cafety help refer kids to Magnolia, or even support refering of kids to that program. I should of made that more clear. Kevin does support it, obviously, he maintains a website that promotes the program solely, and jUdge bean has insinuated to us that someone helped him get 2 kids. This is why I assumed there were people at cafety helping him, because he thanked them for helping bring in two kids. It appears he could of only been refering to Kevin? I don't realy know.
What I do know is that JudgeBean has admitted to his program using a wooden paddle in an abusive manner as a ways of coercing the teens to follow the rules. They also use forced physical exercise. The paddling of teenagers, in my opinion, is 100% completely unacceptable and should be illegal in all states. Right now its illegal 29 states, but its still legal in Miss. where the program is. The law even grants staff immunity from prosecution, almost seemingly to promote this kind of behavior.. its very disturbing.
I think it is UNETHICAL to send kids from states where paddling is illegal, to a state where it is legal, to a place where this will be specifically enforced. It might not be illegal, I think it should be, it's skirting existing child abuse laws by outsourcing it to other states, but I don't know if it is or not.
It makes me sad to see a felow scl survivor using his experience to support such similar abuse to what we both encountered ourselves. Theres no other way to put it, it just hurts right in my chest, like someone punched me with a bat or something. I don't know why. I guess it's because I am realizing to fight my own battle of truth or whatever, it might mean having to criticize and take strong stances against other survivors. Me being as naive as I am about politics assumed survivors at least had a united front. I just hope he is mistaken and will figure it out and remove Magnolia from his site being sold as a 'safe alternative to wwasp'. Because that just isnt true. Neither of us were paddled at SCL. So I dont know how you can claim that it is better?
I am really curiou why judge was thanking the cafety board for helping bring in two new kids though. Maybe I misread that quote, but that is when I kind of lost it and got really angry and upset about all this.
Just because you are against wwasps does not mean you have to be for another program. This is the biggest fallacy in this debate, and many survivors fall into the trap..