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[MightyAardvark]

1) Incarcerating someone without due process is evil.
2) Cognitively restructuring someone without their consent, or the above mentioned due process is evil.

The "teen help" industry cannot exist without doing the above ergo the teen help industry is evil.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

[Anonymous]

WWASPS is a bad company but certainly not the only devil. This whole "WWASPS is bad, x-program is better" song and dance is so played.

I agree that argument is without merit. As is the argument being made by the more extreme anti program people who suggests that "WWASPS is bad, therefor  all programs are just as bad" song and dance.

[nimdA]

No crying wolf now Bill after you did the same to me! Your shameless character assasination of myself by comparing me to that disgusting human being Judge Roy Boner is far worst. That vile specimen of humanity has for over 20 years been in an organization that inflicts pain and suffering on other human beings. I on the other hand fight it tooth and nail. What do I want from you? For you to get your head out of your ass and start doing your own damn leg work.

You know damn well you have a responsibility here. You are a moderator of Anti-wwasp. You speak out regularly against programs. Here I am speaking out against MCC. This isn't sheer speculation on my part either. I do have my evidence. I've encouraged you to duplicate the process. You in your PM declined to do so.

Sorry Bill but you had your chance to learn the truth about MCC. If you still want to get off your ass, get on the phone, work up a fake tear or two and com up with some mythical child who for the love of god needs MCC's help in the worst way.

Being that you've declined to do this I went ahead and confirmed my the results of my original investigation in another way. So blow it out your lazy ass for not doing the right thing and confirming for yourself the truth in the matter. Instead you've opted to attack Angela at Heal, and argue back and forth with me.

You were able to prove child abuse over the phone? That's a first...

What sort of Al Gore douche bag liberalism twaddle is this crap? I've proved a strong case for the potential that it could happen. Excuse me for wanting to prevent a bunch of red neck yokels from beating out of kids. Again maybe you should do your damn homework. Get on the phone and make the damn call like you should have last month.

If you think children are being beaten by red neck yokels, is a phone call the best thing you could do? Call CPS and the police if you know this is the case.

Abuse in the name of Jesus! Boy.. I tell yah I looove America! Praise the lord!!

Brother Jimbo: Bend over and grab your ankles boy! Jesus says so! Jesus says I'm gonna beat yo' Ass fo' not following the MCC Way.

Random Kid: Praise the lord and give another Brothah Jimbo!

Whack Whack Whack

So you are saying the beat boys behinds at MCC? If this is true I am as disgusted as you are. Can you provide us details, or an account from a survivor of this supposedly horrible prison camp.

Once again do your own damn homework. Stop being lazy, pick up the damn phone and make the god damn call.

If you can't afford it, I'll be happy to mail you a calling card. Just pm me your address.

What will a phone call prove?

Thanks for confirming you take the word of a program employee over that of someone who has actually researched the deal. By keeping this up you've betrayed every kid who is in or was in a program. Good job!

MAKE THE CALL BILL.

Were you not a program employee for multiple years yourself? So why should we believe you?

Actually yes it does mean it should be shut down. I'm not about fair. I'm about making sure kids aren't being tortured in the name of treatment.

Again.. DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU END UP SOUNDING LIKE ANOTHER DOUCHE AL GORE LIBERAL.

MAKE THE CALL.



I'm not going to bother humoring the rest of your post until you start answering some questions.


1) Do you endorse corporal punishment in programs?

2) Should a program have an on site mental health professional?

Start there and I'll ask more later.

Have you read Bill's story? It's a lot worse than being a program staff for several years, then finally growing a conscience only after being fired after several years.

These rednecks at Magnolia are so fucking stupid you can only believe it by calling them yourself. Make the call sunspot.

Last I've read Bill's story and his stance on the issue after what he has lived through is troubling. Still that is his deal not mine.

[RobertBruce]

Bump.