I strongly disagree on this one; you have taken an unpopular viewpoint based on antiquated stories. We can all sit here and argue whether rules are agreements or signing a contract is good or bad, how much BM is too much etc. The bottom line is that many of these programs are extremely effective in keeping a child safe and getting them back on their path in life which is what these programs are all about. Learning to start a fire before you can have a hot meal isn’t abusive. Cold meals are just as good for you and as nutritious, hiking thru the woods, setting up your own shelter builds self esteem which is lacking in many children who attend these programs.
It is priceless to see the looks on these kids faces when they start their own fire using flint and dried bark and then proceed to cook a meal…just isn’t something you can easily accomplish thru local services.
The programs of a decade ago are mostly gone and the programs of today greatly outpace those of a year ago. These programs are evolving and building everyday as they incorporate new ideas based on recent studies and parents feed back as they continuously strive to increase effectiveness.
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Now come on folks that was some good spin....
Ok, kidding aside these programs are dangerous. I'm not going to wait around for a suicide or a death before I start putting the fire to asses. I want to give survivors the chance to voice what their experience was first and far most. Most of the Aspen parents report good results or no abuse, however the students usually find somethings inappropriate and have mixed feelings. Beyond that if you start asking detailed question, and not were you "abused" or "not abused", the abusive trends of cedu shows it's ugly head.
Parents Anonwhos and whos get your kids on here if they don't mind sharing the details of their programs. Look, I'm not saying that the word of a parent is bullshit, but it is when you don't provide details. Some parents have given details that showed Aspen as abusive cedu style, and these parents viewed the program in a positive light.
So parents, know that some very knowledgeable old timer survivors that know what abuse is in program will pick apart your story. The reason they do this is because the details often show a program that mirrors another program that was confirmed to be abusive after years and years of denial from the program and the parents.
I have to quote School Daze to you folks "Wake up!"