Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Aspen Education Group
Split from ASR: Private School or RTC
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---what lies? your exact statement was quoted saying you don't believe in unconditional love and then you were asked a simple question. what conditions do you place on your child in order to receive your love. it has nothing to do with anyone but you. you said it. it was quoted. now you want to say that it's a lie? you said it. you lied?
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he clams he called George Millers office about a bill and they told him the bill was dead and it was the republicans fault.
I provided links which proved he never made the call and made it all up. The bill is in subcommittee and is being rewritten.
Here take another look:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-1738
http://tinyurl.com/3ah7le
So we will have to endure his personal attacks until he gets over it, sorry folks.
Deborah:
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--- Quote ---Of course local resources can't help a kid that has nothing wrong with them. Adolescence is not a pathology to be treated.
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Ah?full circle...so back to the ?turn a deaf ear and it will go away?. The ?Do nothing mentality?. Well there are many families that disagree with you and many more that have healthy kids who are back on track because of these programs. Maybe you wouldn?t care enough to get your kids help if they were in crisis or maybe you would gamble and close your eyes and hope for the best.
But there are many parents who care very much and need to do all they can for their children and wont trust their child?s future to chance.
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What was your daughter "treated" for? As I recall, truancy.
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No, it was more than just not going to school. That was just part of it. She was struggling in many areas and we worked with local therapists to help her get back on track, to no avail. If TBS?s did not exist, I am not sure what path we would have taken or options that would have helped.
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--- Quote --- Yeah, well, there are a couple of ways to spin that too. I think the LSWs and licensed psrinks have all the good intentions in the world when they recomend family counseling. However, if the organization to which the family turns for help is one of these cultish ones, that just means everybody joins the cult or leaves the family. Remember what Maia said about the Bacons?
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I was thinking more of a family therapist who could help with conflict resolution, locally. A trained therapist, mom, dad and child in one room. My daughter was being treated but the rest of us were not. I think, again in hindsight, I would have tried this prior to ASR.
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Troll Control:
would you love her if she took all the blame for your problems? is that one of the conditions?
RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---he clams he called George Millers office about a bill and they told him the bill was dead and it was the republicans fault.
I provided links which proved he never made the call and made it all up. The bill is in subcommittee and is being rewritten.
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You have no way of knowing this. The original discussion seemed to be more about why the bill had failed, not where it was now. You claimed it was because "not everyone was involved in the discussion" a point you cannot prove. DJ claimed it was because the republicans never allowed it to come to the floor.
You cannot prove he never spoke to them, why waste your time trying otherwise? In the same sense why bother trying to convince others on here he is a liar when he has far more credibility with parents then youll ever have, and since youve been caught in literally dozens of lies yourself.
--- Quote ---So we will have to endure his personal attacks until he gets over it, sorry folks.
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Come down off the cross, he's not attacking you. He's trying to get you to back up your own comments, something youre too afraid and cowardly to do.
TheWho:
No, no one is attacking me. Let it go and lets move on...this has gone on way to long...its not fair to other people trying to follow the original conversation.
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