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Offline Anonymous

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how about the abuse we did??
« on: January 23, 2007, 05:01:34 PM »
doesnt anyone remeber being in raps or propheets and hearing people cop out to having sexually molested their neice? or done very inappropriate things with their little brother? (beyond the child like playing)...
what bothers me is that these peole were never turned in for anyof these things.
and now the states are crawling with yet a few more sex offenders....and they were let go....

(in my peer group a teenage boy continually copped out to eating out his neice who was just like 1 and also touching her. this is not ok)
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2007, 05:25:26 PM »
How do you know they weren't simply making it up?
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2007, 05:29:24 PM »
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty""
How do you know they weren't simply making it up?


Good question.  There were so many kids that felt pressured to come up with "dirt" on themselves that they'd end up admitting to damn near anything just to get those crazy fucks off their backs.
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well
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 05:42:08 PM »
i dont know that they werent making it up..but why would they make up such horrible things??? why not just say they masturbated and be done with it? i mean...you just gotta know this guy....there is not one fiber of my being that doubts he was telling the truth, and a few others too.
also, i said things that i had done that i felt somewhat bad about because they told me i should. (which later i realized i didnt feel bad about and they were ok things) but i never made anything up.

how do YOU know theyre NOT?
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Re: well
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2007, 05:44:55 PM »
Quote from: ""hmmmm""
i dont know that they werent making it up..but why would they make up such horrible things??? why not just say they masturbated and be done with it? i mean...you just gotta know this guy....there is not one fiber of my being that doubts he was telling the truth, and a few others too.
also, i said things that i had done that i felt somewhat bad about because they told me i should. (which later i realized i didnt feel bad about and they were ok things) but i never made anything up.

how do YOU know theyre NOT?


I know of many, many kids who flat out made shit up to fit in.  They made shit up because they didn't *feel bad enough* about what they did before they went in.  It's a very common phenomenon. (sp?)
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2007, 06:34:44 PM »
Most of what you know simply isn't true.

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Dr. Kassin and his student, Catherine L. Kiechel, designed a lab experiment demonstrating how innocent people can be led to a false confession, to the point that some may even become convinced they are guilty. (1,3) In the study, college students were asked to type letters on a keyboard as a researcher pronounced them. Some researchers read out the letters quickly (67 per minute), others slowly (47 per minute). The subjects were warned to not touch the ALT key, because a bug in the testing program would cause the computer to crash and lose all the data. One minute into the test, the computer was manually caused to crash. In half the tests, the researchers said they had actually seen the subject depressing the ALT key. At first, the subjects correctly denied hitting the key. The researcher then hand-wrote a confession and asked the subjects to sign it. The penalty would be an angry telephone call to the subject by Dr. Kassin. One hundred per cent of the subjects who had typed the letters quickly, and who were told by the researcher that they had been observed hitting the ALT key, signed the confession; 65% of the subjects believed they were guilty; 35% even confabulated non-existent details to fit their beliefs. Overall, 69% signed the note and 28% believed they were actually guilty.


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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2007, 07:03:38 PM »
I found this intriguing.
thanks for posting it, web mistress.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2007, 09:01:38 PM »
The other day I was telling a therapist about a boy at my school who admitted to taking the soiled tampons out of the garbage when he was emptying them on saturday morning cleanup. he evidentaly was smelling and licking them. I asked the therapist if it is likely that it really happened. I was confounded but he reminded that teenagers do do wierd shit. how many cases of beastiality did you hear about that happened while you were there? I remember a couple. It does seem to have been said about people that didn't graduate the program and left under mysterious circumstances...and then again there were some cases of mysterious circumstances, as well.
But the question was put to me whether i heard the guy admit it. He was on a full time and then he admitted it. i heard him personally on more than one occasion talk about the issue. It freaked me out a lot at the time, and I never told anyone about it, until mentioning it to this man. Now I think that this kid did not do the things he said he had done. I now think that he needed to feel bad and admit to doing something that got him the attention he needed. He created the issued within the confines of having to admit to something to staff. Who is going to understand that if they don't know how the place operates?
this kind of thing happened all the time to lesser degrees, I tried to explain. This psychiatrist thought my place sounded bizarre and wasn't a little amused when I described it as I had been trained to. As Emotional Growth. He bought me shot. We tried to ignore the fact that I brought the thing up.
He wants to talk more but it gives me the heebie jeebies just trying to describe what a profeet was like
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2007, 09:10:55 PM »
Remember, every shrink you tell the details to knows more about the subject, and so might be of better help to someone who's ignorant of it and looking to send his kids away.
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2007, 09:50:19 PM »
I dunno Blown; I heard quite a few cases of bestiality when I was there.   Horse, cat, and a couple of dogs. I never even knew that bestiality existed up to that point.  To say it was a fucking shocker is minimalism.   Also, rubbing feces all over... another WTF? moment for me forever seared in my mind.  And that tampon stuff is too strange to be anything but true.

I think people lied about sex, eating disorders, drugs and regular shit to get the staff off their backs.  (Many people have discussed the lies they told to stop The Barrage... it was always, sex, drugs, eating disorders.) I think the stuff outlined in the first paragraph is simply too bizarre for even the staff to come up with.  Which is saying a lot....  Or maybe I'm just more square than I thought I was.

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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2007, 09:58:30 PM »
I guess it doesn't matter if I post anonmyously, someone else will post it.

Blown, you like my post?
That shrink and I drink together sometimes It's just too wierd trying to talk about that shit in a bar.
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Yes!! Too wierd..
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2007, 10:15:52 PM »
I cant even recall how many times i heard people talk about doing wierd S**T with animals (those poor pets) but it wasnt until i was out in the real world and i heard a few girls talking about similar things that they used to do.
i dont think THEY were making it up to get attention from staff!
I think a lot of that kind of stuff was real. i think that some crap was made up (i never made anything up, altho i did feel like i needed to pretend like i FELT BAD ABOUT IT) but some of the more horrible stuff, you just cant make that stuff up. and i recall several creepy people saying stuff that made me think they should be put away and not let around  children, even staff having admitted to molesting or some crap in propheets...
Scary
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2007, 11:31:43 PM »
Here is why I question the validity of the nature of some of the confessions at the school. They got weirder over time. When you run out of material, you have to make shit up.

I can say that I never made anything up, to my knowledge. I was just too scared to be caught in a lie. But like Ginger said, we can be made to believe what we did. I know that some of my disclosures were skewed perspectives on what had actually happened. i.e. I talked one of my friends in grade school into making out with me. That evolved into "forcing someone to kiss me".

And there is shit, I know, for a fact, was a bunch of bullshit that I heard. One guy in my peer group confessed in a propheet  that he had fucked a cat. Stacy asked "Did the cat die?" He said he didn't know. How the fuck could you not know? It's not like he said "I don't know, she ran away after I was done." or something specific like that. It was a floundering. "uh... I dunno."

I'm not saying bestiality doesn't happen. Please, there are plenty of websites that prove otherwise. I personally know people who have had an experience or two, and they didn't go to the school. I just don't think that the percentage of perversion there was as high as it appeared to  be.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2007, 02:59:26 PM »
uhhh, cuckoo!!! Cuckoo!!! That's fucked up shit, nobody talked about that bad of shit in my raps. At least not that I remember, in fact, I can't remember much about the raps except people being forced to cry their eyes out and  holy shit... many memories just flooded my mind. Why the fuck was this shit discussed in front of other peers, I remember some guy was telling people that he liked something up his ass while jerking it like it was common knowledge or he "worked past" it. I also remember a female staff that was kind of wrinkling, skinny, blonde hair at RMA 1993-94 admitting to being a whore and talking about masturbating at strange times like while driving and shit. I also remember them trying to get me to tell them shit about me and getting into me so hard that I felt I needed to make some shit up. I was there because I got into drugs and fights and started to hang out with gangs, they tried to say there was something behind all that as well. Maybe their was but if that is the case, should I not have discussed it with a licensed psychiatrist or at least not in a group setting? Wow, I almost totally forgot those moments, I can almost smell the fire from the pit.
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Hey Dr longjon
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2007, 09:57:22 AM »
you were only there briefly, right?

when you thought about it for a few minutes you remembered some of the things said. That's because it was coocoo as you said.

That you (editorial you) would become desensitzed over time to raps and start to filter out the details that are so prominent in the first few raps is what i find interesting.

The mind will cloud out things over time, but I just cant forget one of my counselors talking about fucking a horse...in detail. My god, why doesn't someone read this shit and say. "Ok, I've heard enough, I believe them. I agree that that IS NOT therapy, I'm calling my congressperson right now!"
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange
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