The full quote, which the troll did not leave, as it would not have made much sense, is Proverbs 26:11: 'Sicut canis qui revertitur ad vomitum suum sic inprudens qui iterat stultitiam suam'. Translation: As a dog that returneth to his vomit, so is the fool that repeateth his folly.
My reply, 'Sicut avis ad alia transvolans et passer quolibet vadens sic maledictum frustra prolatum in quempiam superveniet', came from Proverbs 26:2, and translates to: As a bird flying to other places, and a sparrow going here or there: so a curse uttered without cause shall come upon a man. Meaning... a curse uttered without cause shall do no harm to the person that is cursed, but will return upon him that curseth, as whithersoever a bird flies, it returns to its own nest.
Thanks to all who noticed. :lol:
Ursus,
What my adapted Proverb 26:11 means is that you returning to an unpleasant event that occurred over thirty years ago between you and Vanda seems to me like "a dog (in this case bear) returning to its vomit." It's high time that that unpleasant event were out of your system. Moreover, your allegation that she is a false friend is none of our concern. It does not pertain to cults. It is unmistakably personal vendetta.
I've reached an age where I have begun researching my past. The Internet makes that possible. I am glad that I discovered this site and had the opportunity to analyze what are arguably the two strangest years of my life. On the other hand, while I am not discounting the painful experiences of others, I do not feel that my experience left any lasting damage. So when you, Ursus, go on record as saying that you are STILL recovering from your Hyde experience, I am bowled over. What could possibly have been so bad? At first, I admit, I thought that you were pathologically vulnerable. Now I'm beginning to wonder if you are not also pathologically vindictive. Forgive me for being so frank, but the explanation was in order.
I still don't understand the relevance of your proverb. Did you really think I was cursing you?
Mike
Hi Mike,
Yes, I did think you might be cursing me. After all, there had been quite a bit of discussion re. Ramtha and you didn't see fit to identify yourself. :lol: :rofl:
There was no unpleasant event 30 years ago between Vanda and myself that I was returning to, in fact, I don't think there ever was an unpleasant event between us that I can remember. Rather, it was recently avowed statements on her part that were part and parcel of her return to Hyde to receive her diploma that, in no uncertain terms, negated previously avowed sentiments and allegiances on her part towards me. And you are right, I shouldn't have taken it personally. If that is the kind of pressure that people feel from Hyde, and that is how they capitulate, all for the sake of that flimsy piece of vellum, then something definitely stinks around that place and it certainly isn't the aroma of rotting piers wafting uphill from the Kennebec. I originally brought this up in the context of the duplicity that Hyde can effect but clearly something was lost along the way as it apparently has come out a lot more personal than it was intended. I hadn't meant to come across as personally "vindictive" and if that is the case, then I do most heartily apologize. However, I do still stand by my previous statement:
Far be it for me to nitpik at someone else's vision of happiness, and I must add that Paul always struck me as being very kind (at least to me)... however, I can not help but feel that something in the environment at Hyde (the water?!) primed these two to go this route...
As to your impression that I was "pathologically vulnerable", you are in the right ballpark, although I would not go so far as to use the term pathological. Hyde has a well-documented history of accepting students with problems and in my case, a history of major depression. To have that turned around and used as inexorable evidence of my woefully deficient character rather than to be acknowleged for what it actually was, not to mention the actions taken against said woefully deficient character, precipitated an even steeper downward spiral than had been there before. That isn't the whole story of their culpability, of course, but the one I'll address here. I am happy for you that you have been blessed with such a robust sense of self that you have been able to emerge seemingly unscathed by your Hyde experience. Not everyone has been so lucky. For my part, I have found this site to be most healing and illuminating, present exchange excepted.
Please be more careful with your quotes, Mike. You inserted a few lines of text into my quote which were not there before. "We own what we write", and I don't own those words and don't particularly care to have them attributed to me. I have taken the liberty of removing them within this reply, but they are still there in your post for all eternity, as it were.
Urs
