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Requesting Parents' Assessment of Hyde School
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---This just highlights how some kids can come out of there traumatized for life and others can say, "hey, what are you talking about?" The application of their "philosophy" was inconsistent and had as much to do with the personality of the kid as the personality of the perp and the particular circunstances at that particular point in time. Can you imagine what a parent would be charged with if they tried to raise their kids like that?
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Yes, inconsistance. Why one reaction for one kid and a different reaction for another?
How much of method was designed by Hyde School? Did Joe Gauld read about these cult techniques or did Hyde just stumble on them?
So the question that has been raised here on the question of standards of diplomas, here is a little story. I was standing at function with Paul Hurd and and another alum from back in the early seventies. This guy turns to me and says "you know the difference between you and some of the kids that got diplomas? Money: how much did your parents give?" I was waiting for Paul to challenge that assurtion but he just smiled and laughted. Maybe Paul is disgruntled too. I would be if my father in law fired me and replaced me with my wife. It must have been like getting your balls crushed in a vise.
gary eskow:
Gary, I will have to think about my story appearing in print. For those who knew me there are to many hints to my identity. I would'nt want the life I have now jeopardized for any reason
Of course, I understand. You have to balance your desire for privacy against the value that others in a vulnerable position might gain from learning from your experience. Let me know if you decide you'd like to be interviewed.
Confidentiality will be respected at all times.
gary
scribeny@aol.com
Anonymous:
Interesting. Here is what I currently think about "how well you did there" (aka "how much you developed your unique potential"). Capricious influences, luck, and other acts of God aside, your outcome was generally favorably influenced by one or more of the following:
* whether someone on the faculty or similar position of authority "liked" you
* whether you had knowledge of some indiscretion or even crime involving a faculty member or someone in a similar position of authority
* a high degree of parental involvement (e.g., they participated in family weekends with great gusto, they held "Hyde School teas" in their homes to recruit other prospective students, etc.)
* parental financial contribution to the school
* great parental wealth or fame regardless of financial contribution to date (potential bad publicity could be harmful?)
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---How much of method was designed by Hyde School? Did Joe Gauld read about these cult techniques or did Hyde just stumble on them?
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Joe was well-versed in AA philosophy and terminology. I think I'm safe if I categorically state that every single person that spent any time at Hyde would be treated sooner or later to some "wisdom" from that "school" of thought.
AA spawned some other beauties. Check out Synanon, and two of its off-shoots: The Seed, and CEDU. Much of their regimens, with some alterations in style, terminology, or degree, are what we experienced at Hyde. I should rather say, what I experienced at Hyde.
One can go back further than Synanon, or even AA (?), to methods employed by Mao-Tse-Tung and the communists in fighting Chang-Chi-Shek (sp?) and the Japanese in the 1920's/30's. It was a three-way war, with shifting allegiances between the major parties, and a huge, largely agrarian population to sway with increasingly limited resources to do so.
And I am sure you can go back even further...
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote ---How much of method was designed by Hyde School? Did Joe Gauld read about these cult techniques or did Hyde just stumble on them?
--- End quote ---
Joe was well-versed in AA philosophy and terminology. I think I'm safe if I categorically state that every single person that spent any time at Hyde would be treated sooner or later to some "wisdom" from that "school" of thought.
AA spawned some other beauties. Check out Synanon, and two of its off-shoots: The Seed, and CEDU. Much of their regimens, with some alterations in style, terminology, or degree, are what we experienced at Hyde. I should rather say, what I experienced at Hyde.
One can go back further than Synanon, or even AA (?), to methods employed by Mao-Tse-Tung and the communists in fighting Chang-Chi-Shek (sp?) and the Japanese in the 1920's/30's. It was a three-way war, with shifting allegiances between the major parties, and a huge, largely agrarian population to sway with increasingly limited resources to do so.
And I am sure you can go back even further...
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AA has some of the elements but not all the elements of hyde. Most people are ready to "come to Jesus" when they hit AA. Hyde has the element of making you believe you need to change.
I am wondering if at some point Joe Gauld said, " I am going turn my school into a cult" and systematically began to apply the techniques described here in this artical on Coercive Persuasion and Attitude Change:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/brain ... hing8.html
or did he just stumble into it
It is really amazing to me that Hyde shares so many element with programs like Synanon. It is supposed to be a school not a mind control center.
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