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Anonymous:
In any country that has ratified the UN Convention on the Rights of a Child any child held against their will is being held against international law.

doesn't matter whether you think it's right or wrong- it's part of the treaty and was thoughtfully added.

I'm sorry for parents that had sleepness nights worried about their children...(maybe their own parents had the same nights yet did not pay to have them incarcerated to get some sleep and most grew out of it as the parents walked through it with them)

What really makes me sick is those that continue to dwell on what my child did to me.. someday I hope they will know that the child they incarcerated may have many sleepless nights accompanied my nightmares that may be more real than we all know and you may have paid for it.

Your child may not be your biggest problem. Sadly your child may reap what you sowed.

Anonymous:
That last post was one BIG assumption.  Maybe this, maybe that.  My wish is that every child who was given the gift of the wwasp program reaps the benefits, and for the parents that cared enough to go the distance as hard as it was/is.  You are my heroes!

Anonymous:
Again, I note the floods of gushing parents praising the programs to the skies and the virtual absence of people who have actually been incarcerated in these places, and been out for five years or more, showing up to discuss their program experience in both careful detail *and* having that experience not include being abused or neglected or witnessing the abuse or neglect of others.

I predict very lonely aging experiences for these program parents.

Deborah:
What I noticed is more defense for sending your child away. No answers to the questions about where you draw the line in terms of abuse and BM techniques. Are we to assume that you support the techniques spelled out by others- punishment for looking out the window, looking at the opposite sex, looking at self in the mirror; limited calories, restraint, kneeling for hours on a hard surface, etc? I'm sure i missed a few.
I suppose that is irrelevant to you. Other parents want to know how their child will be "treated" while in "long-term" care. You make this BM program sound like a bonefide psychiatric hospital. Long-term treatment....  :lol:  in a program designed by a used car salesman and a electrical engineer. Appears neither possessed credentials to set up a facility(s) for "long-term treatment"?

Anonymous:
The International treaty on children?s rights in section five states the following

 Article 5

States Parties shall respect the responsibilities, rights and duties of parents or, where applicable, the members of the
Extended family or community as provided for by local custom, legal guardians or other persons legally responsible for the child, to provide, in a manner consistent with the evolving
Capacities of the child, appropriate direction and guidance in the exercise by the child of the rights recognized in the present Convention.

Simply put this means that the Parents or guardians rights of how to educate and what kind of boarding school the child attends is to be respected and recognized...otherwise a true Owellian dictatorship of a state not the family will dictate the values the child learns one could argue that this is already the case and the family is being destroyed by real intended but misguided people in Governments all over the world...no one has a better feeling for the needs of the child then the parents who are naturally, bond by blood and genetics and affection.

The children at Dundee where not held against their will but were enrolled by the parents whose rights as recognized by the treaty had every right to place them in Dundee...If you follow the argument just advanced in that the children were held against their will then how can government have compulsorily education wherein if the child refuses to go to school both the child and the parent go to jail AGAINST THEIR WILL...Again this is Political Correctness run amok if you place your child in a prestigious boarding school on the east coast he or she cant get up and walk out onto the street and the dangers there in with out the parents release and the schools release this is identical to what existed at Dundee.  The children were placed in the boarding school in some cases in lieu of Juvenile prison...Dundee never put a gun to these parents heads to sign their contract and do placement.... The parents exercised there rights in behalf of their wayward children according to National and international rights...DUNDEE WAS THE AGENT OF THE PARENTS by signed and notarized legal contract and thus acting to any reasonable interpretation of the placement of children in a boarding school environment...If children were ever stopped from leaving it was out of concerns for their own safety and at anytime the parent requested them to leave they did?. the policy was very clear and followed religiously. Again well intended Beliefs or interpretation of law by advocates of child rights do not determine the law the law determines itself with its intent and the law on parental rights for minor children in this case is clear and well defined by past judicial presedent.

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