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Offline Antigen

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« on: January 09, 2007, 10:50:20 AM »
Anybody know of a YouTube video of restraints at Aspen?
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 12:00:23 PM »
Yeh, I think it was an Aspen wilderness program, if memory serves. From the UK Brat Camp series. It happened during intake. If I stumble across the link I'll post it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 01:16:51 PM »
Here ya go LINK
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2007, 01:34:19 PM »
Thats some kind of sloppy shoulder-twisting technique, I think combined with some fucked up wrist lock.

Wrist locks are fucking BANNED from almost all MMA and BJJ competitions... for a reason. IT IS DANGEROUS.

Also, shoulder locks like that are not 'restraint'. They are ATTACKS MEANT TO MAIM AND INJURE. If someone was actually out of control, they could seriously fuck themselves up. And using pain compliance on anyone, a child like that, is fucked up. Majorly.

But, hey, as long as some fuck wad rode on Oprah's coat tails, hey, lets send em to go get fucked, right?

 :flame: I'd love to show them how to really do a fucking shoulder attack.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 01:55:18 PM »
What really pisses me the fuck off is when they go "I'm not hurting you" and trying to console her throughout, in both this vid and the #2 in the right-hand list.

Fucking bullshit.

These people all deserve to be killed.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2007, 11:13:20 PM »
what about the "i can make it hurt!" and the
"i'm not hurting you YET"
and the "and now it hurts!"
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2007, 11:24:49 PM »
They use brute force because they are lacking the intelligence to do anything else. They have no useful skills, even less than the parents. And take everything personally. People go into this line of work for a reason. And it has little to nothing to do with really caring about or being of any real use to kids.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2007, 11:31:18 PM »
*shudders
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 11:41:42 PM »
Quote from: ""TS Waygookin""

Sounds like a trail motivational.


Sound off by pairs!

Does it hurt yet!

NO SIR!

I can make it hurt!

YES SIR! MAKE IT HURT SIR!


Kinky........
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2007, 04:46:02 AM »
You mean they put this on TV as part of Brat Camp and people the US Britian and Europe watched it and were ok with it? There was no outcry? What the fuck is wrong with the world!!!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2007, 04:46:40 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2007, 12:10:45 AM »
Quote from: ""Oz girl""
You mean they put this on TV as part of Brat Camp and people the US Britian and Europe watched it and were ok with it?


Not even by her mom: From: http://shinymedia.blogs.com/tvscoop/tv_reviews/

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Georgie, who managed to thud her big clunky hands against the arms of a Brat Camp Hippie, went on quite a journey, after the camp gave in, and sent her to somewhere even tougher (and probably twice as infuriating). After being sent an a farm to work, Georgie came back, seemingly still unable to form proper words, but all the calmer for it. In fact, it showed her at her new job... which seemed to be walking a tiny horse around. Weird. A highlight of the Georgie section was when her mother asked if she was bothered when she saw the footage of being restrained by camp staff... she basically didn't care less. Brilliant!
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Motherly love? Seeing your child being beaten up on national television and do not care?
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2007, 02:39:28 AM »
Which of the Aspen camps was the pink haired girl at? The one whose restrainers had blue t shirts.
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2007, 03:30:53 AM »
She was on Brat Camp 3 (UK). Her name is Geogie.

It was shot at Aspen Achievement Academy.

After the show she could not adjust to the real world, so she begged her mother to lock her up. Her mother took a loan in her house so she could be locked up at Excel academy. She will properly be released sometime late in 2007. Her major problem is that she liked girls instead of boys, which is quite shameful in some circles in England. So the shame of being "wrong" caused her to act out.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brat_Camp#The_shows
http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites ... orgie.html

The person with damage to her wrist is Lucy.

http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites ... /lucy.html

She got transferred to Turn-about Ranch and went back as a shadow of herself after only 4 weeks on the ranch. I dont know what Wayne did to her, but It could not have been nice.

http://www.morecambetoday.co.uk/ViewArt ... ID=1342704
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2007, 06:53:57 PM »
Err - does anyone else notice that at the start of the video everyone is perfectly posed with no movement, and suddenly there's a "takedown" - but with no change in balance or significant weight shift?  The "victim" simply falls forward?

In a takedown someone of that size who's showing resistance, there would be a LOT of weight shift on the part of the staff members, and some kind of twisting movement of the supposed victim.   But in this, all the movement is forward, and with no effort.

Sorry, but that one looks completely staged.
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