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Offline Nihilanthic

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« Reply #150 on: December 26, 2006, 05:22:26 PM »
I'm glad you're still around.

Regarding how all of us might act sometimes, all I have to say is this is what these places do to people! Its not personal so much as bringing back old pain becuase of what was done to them by their parents can hurt, and in my case I just can't understand being tricked like that, because I haven't been tricked.

Also, I was never in a program myself, Im one of the rare people who came by without any prior involvement and decided to care and was able to understand, more or less.

I have a better understanding than most people who have not heard of these places before, so I know all the tricks... you did not.

I also know about the seminars and that brainwashing nonsense, whereas you did not until after it was done to you. Time and some education will help get that out of your skull, don't worry :P

BTW, have you found a shrink for the kid yet before you put him back in public school? I'd really recommend getting him with a therapist and getting a psych. profile done and at least a intake before putting him in a public school, he might not be able to handle that.

At any rate, I'm glad you and your kids were able to enjoy Christmas with eachother...
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« Reply #151 on: December 26, 2006, 10:11:06 PM »
Thanks!  He wants to jump right back into Jr High.  His dean, myself, his father are against it.   There is a youth transition day program that I feel would help him. They have "real" therapy to help him transition back into life, school and deal with what he has gone through.  I get the feeling from him, that anything that has the word "program" in it, he is not willing to do.  Which I dont blame him.  I told him will go visit and if he still is against it, we will try regular jr high.   I know now I have to listen to him, as well as be a parent.  Yes, we are working on getting him into a psychologist soon.
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« Reply #152 on: December 26, 2006, 10:22:50 PM »
What seminars did your son go through before he was pulled?
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« Reply #153 on: December 26, 2006, 10:29:46 PM »
He went to Orientation at Midwest.  That was it.  He never received the points to go on to Discovery at TB.
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« Reply #154 on: December 26, 2006, 10:32:44 PM »
Oh, okay. What was the highest level that he reached? Were you ever able to speak with him on the phone?
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« Reply #155 on: December 26, 2006, 10:41:10 PM »
No.. he never reached past Level 1
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« Reply #156 on: December 26, 2006, 10:41:39 PM »
What is the name and location of this day program?
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« Reply #157 on: December 26, 2006, 10:42:16 PM »
How many points do you need to go to a seminar?
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« Reply #158 on: December 26, 2006, 10:43:00 PM »
How  many points do you think the kids need to go to a seminar?

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« Reply #159 on: December 26, 2006, 10:45:41 PM »
I was told that he at least needed positive points and show improvement to be able to go.  TB was more stricter on who was invited to go to Discovery.   By then end of the night he was always at negative points.
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« Reply #160 on: December 26, 2006, 10:47:35 PM »
Funny, I've never heard, not from one person ever, that you need points to go to the seminars. Kids told me that they would go to discovery the day after they arrived, if that is when the seminar came. Weird, huh? How about at Midwest, he was there for several months right. Why didn't he go to discovery there? As far as I know, they come around every two months and everyone has to go.
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« Reply #161 on: December 26, 2006, 10:56:29 PM »
Yes at Midwest he went to Orientation asap cause it was the week after.   He choose out as they say.   He said because he didnt cry enough.   Then he went to the next one.   I was told by his rep at TB that they are more stricter.  They have to go to accountability first, then if they have points and have proven themselves they can go to discovery.  The next one for him was a few weeks ago and he didnt go to it.
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« Reply #162 on: December 26, 2006, 10:58:12 PM »
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Funny, I've never heard, not from one person ever, that you need points to go to the seminars. Kids told me that they would go to discovery the day after they arrived, if that is when the seminar came. Weird, huh?
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Question for you?  Is that from what you have been told or experienced?   I am going with what my son experienced and told me.
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« Reply #163 on: December 26, 2006, 11:02:32 PM »
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Yes at Midwest he went to Orientation asap cause it was the week after.   He choose out as they say.   He said because he didnt cry enough.   Then he went to the next one.   I was told by his rep at TB that they are more stricter.  They have to go to accountability first, then if they have points and have proven themselves they can go to discovery.  The next one for him was a few weeks ago and he didnt go to it.



Orientation is  when a couple upper levels walked the kid around the facility and showed you the ropes, and you spent a couple days attached to another kid to tell you whats up. "Orientation" is not a seminar, so I don't know how you could choose out of that.

Discovery is the first seminar the kids go to, regardless of points. If they were withholding the seminars from your kid, then what on EARTH were you paying for? That is the 'therapuetic' aspect of the program. If he was in the program for eight months there should have been at least three or even four chances to go through the seminars. Accountability is the third seminar. Why don't you tell us what the second seminar is called, ask your son if you don't know.
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« Reply #164 on: December 26, 2006, 11:16:03 PM »
According to the program my son went through.... Orientation is the first seminar he went through. It was not what you described, it was a 2 day seminar.   Then at Midwest... it was discovery, focus, pc1 ect...    At TB.. they do orientation, which my son went through at Midwest, then they have a one day seminar of accountability that they have to pass to move on.   If they show progress and have positive points they go to discovery.  

I am just sharing what we experienced with the seminars.  The parents start with Discovery right off the bat.
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