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Historical letters/ Sue Scheff/ WWASPS
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---That does seem to be a problem---separating out the TREKKERS who did refer parents to PURE.
These TREKKERS then became people who were referring children to abusive programs, themselves.
Lee Colburn is listed as a plaintiff in the Turlely lawsuit, isn't he?
Could this be Sue-Sue and Izzy's way of obtaining their "information" for their little press releases about this lawsuit?
Makes one wonder, doesn't it?
--- End quote ---
I thought both Izzy and Sue helped to locate this lawfirm for the original plaintiff? Which leads me to wonder if Turley has been contacted by any parents who have a gripe with WWASPS but were referred by Sue Scheff (PURE)? Somewhere it is posted that Scheff was one of WWASPS most successful referrers. If that is true, than how many kids did she place and what are the chances these kids have heard of the TURLEY lawsuit and want to join? ANybody else think of this?
Anonymous:
As I understand it, the original Trekkers were a mixed bag of parents, relatives, friends of kids sent to WWASPS programs. When Donna H. became friendly with Sue Scheff, I think some of these people didn't care for the association and dropped out or were kicked off. The reminder may have merged with Scheff's listserve after Donna died, or perhaps the two listserves were combined. Either way, I have often wondered how these people justified their continued support of Scheff and PURE once it was disclosed she continued to refer to WWASPS after she removed her own daughter from a WWASPS program and started PURE. It seems to me this should have created at least some passionate discussion among the followers, if not a mass exodus if for no other reason than they felt betrayed?
Anonymous:
I do believe that it's been posted that Sue Scheff LIED to these Trekkers and everyone else, and said she didn't refer to WWASP programs after she started PURE.
BUT--her great big ole lies were disclosed in the WWASP vs PURE transcripts....right?
Then I do believe Sue Scheff LIED and said she only referred Parents and thier children to "safe, good, non-abusive facilities," and low and behold it seems that just wasn't true either, was it?
You could ask some of these parents, especially the Whitmore parents she referred.
And I do believe Sue Scheff LIED and said she did all this "good work" for free---isn't that what she said?HMGYM
Anonymous:
"It seems to me this should have created at least some passionate discussion among the followers"
Mass dicussion wasn't allowed. If you tried to discuss anything that Sue didn't agree with then you were removed from the list. If you discussed anything that was "controversial" you were removed from the list. Sue and some of the others on the list did not want any thing to get in the way of "thier" goals or plans.
Anonymous:
Who are "these others" who stand behind Sue Scheff and her PLANS AND GOALS?
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