Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Lighthouse of northwest florida (fka VCA )/ Rebekah / Roloff )
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hurrikayne:
I never met Lester, and couldn't say as to what kind of person he was. What I can say is that the folks who were in charge after him were abusive, more emotionally than physically from my experience. I was there, I have seen what they were capable of. Please don't categorize other's experiences by YOUR experience.
If you were in City of Refuge, you went in either voluntarily, or by court order and either had the choice to leave whenever you wanted or when your judge said you could. You were not dragged there and dumped by your family with no hope of leaving until your year was done, if then. Unfortunately, for some even with the emotional abuse, it was a safer haven than home. This was not the case for all.
I am an adult, with children of my own. I know the difference between paddling, and abuse. Understand that I saw paddling, and I saw abuse. You stated, "As for "abuse," that's mostly how the incorrigible and delinquent kids interpreted the counseling " There was NO counseling when I was there. Perhaps there was in the '60s, but not in the late '80s.
lorrispickelmire:
Rebekah was not even in existance when our friend from city of refuge who prefers to remain anon was there. You can find the history of the homes by googling. The girls that were in Rebekah in the late 60's and early 70's were mostly there due to bad abuse in their homes, or pregnancy. I would love to hear how he assumes it is ok to hit someone who is pregnant with a board or a razor strap. Or how being beat for the slightest infraction qualifies as couceling at all. I have never heard of a therapeutic beating.
Roloff preached hate from the pulpit and years after he was gone it was still being forcefed to these troubled teens from intercoms in their sleep. A lot of girls were placed in Rebekah to keep the dirty little family secrets under the rug. A girl kept totally isolated from the world around them cant blab about the family secrets.
hurrikayne:
Lorri, I know hon. You know me, you jusht don't realize you do.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---In the final analysis, if we want civilization to advance and the world to become a better place, we need rules and role models that can counteract dissolution and evil-doing. Human behavior is a broad spectrum, and even religions and cults have helped with those things.
--- End quote ---
I love this statement. Kind of sums up their rationalizations real nice for lots of these ideologically driven cults.
Just exactly HOW do cults help further the progress of humankind? Seems there are lots of people who experience longterm trauma from having gone through that brainwashing.
Anonymous:
Guest Wrote:
As for "abuse," that's mostly how the incorrigible and delinquent kids interpreted the counseling - which I admit could extend up to paddling - that resulted when they broke the rules. A lot of the kids at Roloff's homes were far from the average boy or girl, and were being saved from state incarceration by the grace of Roloff and his staff. To many of those kids, just living under strict Christian rules seemed like abuse! Hey, I had that attitude myself at times back then!
Ok two things, it could extend up to way worse than paddling, it could extend up to torture, and being hit with a board is not councelling even though it was by far not the worst thing they did to people. Most of the boys and girls at the homes were from disfunctional families, but they were average boys and girls. Sweet, shy, smart, a little withdrawn, but really most looked like poster children from the boy or girl next door ideal. Most came from highly abusive and religious homes, and I knew several who were placed there for spiritual growth, only problem is that the homes major goal was to kill your spirit and make a submissive little robot out of you. GREAT COUNCELLING!
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