Author Topic: Scheff case and pergury (Read 2012 times)

Anonymous · « **on:** October 30, 2006, 09:06:35 PM »

"In the meantime, Carey Bock maliciously and intentionally started a campaign on an Internet forums against Sue Scheff and her organization, PURE. According to a witness during trial, Ms. Bock?s animosity towards Ms. Scheff had to do with the fact Sue Scheff would not disclose the name of a minor who was raped and Ms. Bock needed this child?s name for a potential documentary she would profit from. "

If a witness testified to this and it turned out to not be true, could that individual go jail?

Anonymous · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:16:07 PM »

What documentary would this be that Carey Bock supposedly was going to benefit from?
NAME IT.

Who was this witness that testified to such a thing?
NAME THE WITNESS.

If there was no such documentary,,. then WHY would any witness dare testify to such nonesense?

NAME THE WITNESS and let this person answer for him/herself.
Why beat around the bush?

Anonymous · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:29:38 PM »

Carey,

I personally never once heard you mention help with court or anything of that nature. Now, you may have sought the assistance of others & yes I may not have been aware of any of what transpired in that transaction.

The people you sought out who had formally been employed by wwasps are without a doubt able to assist with a class action law suit...I do not know for sure who is on it or not?

The point I previously discussed with you personally was exposing ALL of the aces that were in some of our hands. I expressed the desire as a group NOT to expose all of our legal info at that time. I believe this was when you were after Dena / Ashley over the rape incident. As long as neither person comes forward, then there will never be a case. I was as frustrated as you were with Dena's issues not exposing wwasps or filing a law suit at that time. Apparently, wwasps either paid the parties off OR Dena & Ashley both decided not to press charges against all parties involved.

YOU seem to still miss the point in my previous post...YOU may have a legitimate beef with Sue Scheff & or P.U.R.E. Take that up with her personally...........NOT all over this board.

The other point is why are you attacking everyone? Amberly, Randall, Ryan, Karen, my self & my family, etc... I received the rich snobby email that you accused us all of. I took that personally, as did my family. WE are by any stretch of the imagination wealthy in $, but are abundant in family values, respect & love.

My family's main objective has always been to hold wwasps accountable for what they defrauded my family of. Eventually, with everyone's assistance wwasps will be held responsible for what they did to my family & at the same time everyone else out there who has been hosed by these money grubbing savages will obtain their honor as well. It will be a group effort & NOT an I issue.

You assisted in closing Dundee, believe me YOU did NOT do it alone. ISAC'S, may have contributed, Martha may have helped, allot of players were involved with closing Dundee, NOT JUST YOU. There wasn't one person responsible for any of the closure of Dundee, it was a group consortium. All of the people YOU are trashing & accusing of not helping...WRONG, they did.

I'm just asking you personally to take a break from all of this. If it isn't but one day, go have some fun. Living & breathing wwasps 24/7 will only be YOUR down fall. This crap gets to you after awhile; I'm speaking from experience.

WWASPS maybe currently ahead at this point, eventually with everyone's efforts we will prevail.

Regards,

Lee

Anonymous · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:33:41 PM »

http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t= ... light=dena

Anonymous · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2006, 09:52:44 PM »

Anyone else wonder why LEE directed his post directly to Carey Bock?
The posting immediately before LEE's was posted by this poster, and I am NOT Carey Bock.

Makes one wonder if LEE may have been this "witness" that was referred to in the previous posting.

LEE may need to realize that people, other than Carey Bock, have an interest in this thread...and what is going on with PURE, CAICA, etc, etc.......

Anonymous · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:02:14 PM »

Lee, did you ever ask your friend, Sue Scheff to "take a break from all of this" and not sue Carey Bock? Did you?

Were you a witness in this case against Carey Bock?
Did you "take a break from all of this?"

Can you answer these two questions, or do you need approval from Sue Scheff to answer?

Anonymous · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:31:51 PM »

You LEE of all people know Sue Scheff well enough to know that she destroyed evidence in the middle of her being sued by WWASP and she lied under oath many times. Sue also took money from parents, sent kids to programs where she knew there was abuse or allegations of abuse. she is not qualified to refer a dog to a dog cage and she lies like a drunk sailor. LEE, your friend brags about lieing.

Yes folks, Sue Scheff lies like a drunk sailor. She has said she is a con artist to John France and many others. The outrage about Sue Scheff and her uncollectable "verdict" is that it was obtained by beating Carey Bock with Sue's family money.

She had no real evidence against Carey. The next time Scheff gets in a law suit the evidence against her will come out, and there will be another lawsuit.

Sue lost to Ginger Warbis because Ginger had a lawyer who would have taken Sue Scheff to her knees begging. Right Sue? You will get what is coming to you Sue on another day and maybe in the not to distant future.

Sue Scheff is a witch IMO and she has IMO a black hole for a heart. The only good things being written about Sue Scheff are by her own hands or that of the idiot IZZY of Ca-Ca.

Anonymous · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:47:52 PM »

Again, like the question about "the witness in the case"...why beat around the bush?

What proof do you have that did Sue Scheff destroy evidence during the WWASP case? Expose her ass!

What evidence do YOU have against Sue Scheff that can show up in the NEXT lawsuit?

Again: why beat around the bush?

Expose this woman, if you really have something on her!

Why wait to REACT....?

Anonymous · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:56:52 PM »

And again: IF Sue Scheff has all this family money, WHY was she answering a phone at Humana; or whatever her job really was that she was passing off as some "medical type job" in her testimony in the WWASP vs PURE trial? Just a way to spend the hours of " 9 to 5" like in the movie?

And don't people with all this family money actually send their high-class-daughters to college, so they don't have to go around lying about having a college degree?

And don't people from families with all sorts of money usually just have NANNIES, to watch after the kiddos instead of locking them away at places like WWASP?

Anonymous · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2006, 10:59:56 PM »

Bet everybody has PHIL ELBERG'S name and phone number in their little black book, just waiting to hear from Sue-SUE.

Anonymous · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:03:48 AM »

Committing perjury is a crime. Prosecuting someone for perjuring themselves is a different matter. You'd have to consult an attorney who can review the transcripts to ascertain exactly what was testified to under oath. What happens then, I do not know. An attorney would be able to advise you though so perhaps that would be the first step?

One thing I'm curious about is whether the judge might have cross-examined any of the witnessess since there was no defense attorney present to do so?

What exactly happened in that court room? The media reported next to nothing. Be nice to read the transcripts, that's for sure, and also, to know whether Bock was able to file an appeal because you never know how a judge's rulings will stand up on appeal.

Anonymous · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2006, 02:50:02 AM »

Does anyone think all this boasting by Sue Scheff about this $11.3 "WIN" might come back to bite her?

This has been called a "Hollow Win" but it is beginnig to sound more like a huge miscarrige of of justice IMO.

Anonymous · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:08:25 AM »

That's a very good question. What concerns me is even though most seem to agree the award isn't "collectable", there are still major issues to deal with. For example, how does having a $11.3 judgement against someone impact their credit? What steps do they need to take to protect their assets from being sold to satisfy the judgement? OJ Simpson was able to avoid paying his civil judgement of $30 million because of legal loopholes and he was found guilty of murdering two people! The size of the award is astonishing but I agree with media experts who believe it is very unlikely the case will set any real legal precedent because of the lack of a defense. That is the big elephant in the room, IMO. The defendant didn't (for whatever reason) defend herself against the allegations. The jurors did not debate evidence presented by both sides. I hope Bock has at least consulted an appellate attorney to examine all her options. Judges are not immune to making mistakes in their rulings.

BuzzKill · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:32:43 AM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

And again: IF Sue Scheff has all this family money, WHY was she answering a phone at Humana; or whatever her job really was that she was passing off as some "medical type job" in her testimony in the WWASP vs PURE trial? Just a way to spend the hours of " 9 to 5" like in the movie?

And don't people with all this family money actually send their high-class-daughters to college, so they don't have to go around lying about having a college degree?

And don't people from families with all sorts of money usually just have NANNIES, to watch after the kiddos instead of locking them away at places like WWASP?

I have wondered if she comes from a Romanian gypsy back ground. They have tons of cash; especially those in the leadership (the gypsy kings) but most of it is gotten by questionable means. Ethics are not a factor in their enterprises. Its a different kind of family wealth; and might tend to produce a creature not unlike the queen of referrals. I'd guess maybe she pissed off the family patriarch, and got cut off from the family funds for a spell, causing her brief foray into the working class world. But it is just a guess. She'd say (and rightly so) its no one's bloody business; but It is a puzzel and One dose wonder.

Anonymous · « **Reply #14 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:38:31 AM »

If you were a PARENT, and you googled the names SUE SCHEFF and PURE, and saw all this mess.

Even if you saw she "WON THIS LAWSUIT"--wouldn't you, as a parent, want to read every, tiny, little word said about her and her company before your placed your trust in her and her company?

Once a parent with half a brain starts reading; IMO, that parent should become very concerned about WTF is going on here?

The first place I'd go read would be the FORNITS website sited in the newspaper articles, if I was a parent.
There's more than one person questioning Sue Scheff's honesty, intergrity, business practices, ethics, and they give parents references to court documents--so a parent can educate themselves about Sue Scheff and PURE.
It does seem like Sue Scheff may be her own worst critic in these so-called Press Releases that keep getting pushed into everyone's faces, IMHO.

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