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GregFL:
On 2003-02-21 11:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Greg- do you only want people to agree with you?
It does kinda sound like that. I think everyone has their right to their opinion. You sound a bit defensive."



Not at all Do I just want this to be a forum where we all agree on every point. What fun would that be? On every level you are misenterpreting my reason for posting my opinion.

This is called the seed DISCUSSION forum. In order to discuss, don't we have to lay our opinions and knowledge on the table? I have done so very candidly and honestly and have steadfastly avoided ad hominems on those that disagree with me. If you look at the entire Fornits site, The SDF stands out as one tolerant of all sides of the issue. If you read thru the entire SDF  you will see that  I have taken great effort to welcome those with opposing viewpoints and will continue to do so.

I also will continue to post what I deeply feel to be the truth, will share my research with all Seed Survivors  and I welcome honest rebuttal.

Go ahead, let the discussion begin....





Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.
Thomas Jefferson, 1787
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Anonymous:
Anyone who credits the Seed with their success is on drugs. I graduated, was on staff and
i denounce it to everyone.

Anonymous:
As an outsider looking in, I find this forum particularly interesting.  I would encourage the individual with the good experience to address each and every point raised by greg.  I would be able to find his argument convincing if there were something  substantial in terms of evidence that he could present to support his arguments.  I wonder, for example, why, or how his brother came to be shooting heroin at the age of 14.  
A large percentage of people who end up as drug addicts seem to have mental health problems, and there's a bit of a chicken and egg argument here.  Is drug use symptomatic of an attempt at self medication -- to feel good as a counterbalance to a life of misery and low self-esteem.  So, why did your brother get into using drugs in the first place?  Why did you?  What did The Seed give you and your parents that you didn't already have?  Was it a process of "positive disintigration"  breaking you down to build you up? Or was it something else?  I need to be informed!

Anonymous:
Me too, please inform me. I am VERY interested in what you gained or perceived to gain from your Seed experience and how you weigh that against the negatives of thought reform.

You have my word that I will consider each and every word your write carefully..

Greg.

thom263:
I have to admit my feelings about the seed are higly ambivalent to  say the least. But i think anyone who is shooting up at 14 has a very big problem that is only gonna get worse! In my case i think that the seed was the lesser of two evils.I was 16 when i went in,and I was drinking and smoking refer(daily). Dealt a little,hung out alot.Places like  7/11 and Lake Vista, and "missed" around 80+ days of the 10th grade.The most important thing i learned from the seed was that my family was dysfuntional,and my family was part of my problem.They were 100 per cent right on that,and when i got started over, they knew why i'd split from home.They sent me back my OldComers family(for 2 months!).They were very nice people. I still question the methods and excesses of the seed, but the program gave me some insight and got me off the streets.    :???:

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