Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
my expierience
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---I appreciate your comment. When I was Bill's age, I had blinders on too. And the comment could have been expanded to include not only thick neck, but thick head too, as applied to me. Maybe if someone had cared enough or bothered enough to make that comment to me, I might have woken up sooner. Who knows...
--- Quote from: ""guest"" ---Hyde is not the only program that needs to be shut down. There are lots of programs like Hyde that need to be regulated. It is very dangerous to send your kid to a program or school that isn't regulated by the department of education. Whether it be a wilderness program, a "character based" school, a therapuetic boarding school, etc, we need to protect our children!
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The problem with these types of places is the premise that thought coercion and behavior modification works and is to the benefit of the child. Notice that so-called followup studies always evaluate after 2 months or so and then a year, never more than that. It is later that the shit really hits the fan. Nobody appreciates having their mind fucked with and there is understandably a certain and expected amount of rage that erupts as a backlash to that. It is an undeniable assault to the dignity and the autonomy of the human spirit. You can not disrespect a kid more than that.
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I found the following quote on the ISACCORP website. Really bizarre!! It was written by Joe Gauld the founder of Hyde Schools.
Since kids - and their parents have been far more immersed in this counter growth culture than has Hyde, Hyde can be far more objective about how to best address the true growth needs of kids. And given the limited time available, Hyde insists on being the final judge on growth issues. We are in a better position than parents to determine a students true best, and further we consider our commitment to help each student realize that best a sacred trust.
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This Joe Gauld character (speaking of character education) sounds like a man with delusions of grandeur. Hyde must be quite a place with someone like him at the helm. I can picture him berating students and acting quite sanctimoniously. Is that the right profile?
Anonymous:
Jesus Christ!
Transcend animal instincts? Hyde just redirects it. Bad family dynamics? Sure substitute the Gauld families' bad dynamics for yours. A new youth culture? I am seeing a social realism poster in my mind with two young people holding up Joe's Little Red Book. Where does he get this stuff from?
What a hoot
Ursus:
Well, I suppose one could say he has his "endearing qualities," but then so did Jim Jones and we all know now how that scenario ended up. I think the correct term might be one of a few rather unflattering profiles in a Psychology 101 textbook, which I feel constrained to elaborate on at the moment...
see here for the full pontification:
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=17336&start=14
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---I appreciate your comment. When I was Bill's age, I had blinders on too. And the comment could have been expanded to include not only thick neck, but thick head too, as applied to me. Maybe if someone had cared enough or bothered enough to make that comment to me, I might have woken up sooner. Who knows...
--- Quote from: ""guest"" ---Hyde is not the only program that needs to be shut down. There are lots of programs like Hyde that need to be regulated. It is very dangerous to send your kid to a program or school that isn't regulated by the department of education. Whether it be a wilderness program, a "character based" school, a therapuetic boarding school, etc, we need to protect our children!
--- End quote ---
The problem with these types of places is the premise that thought coercion and behavior modification works and is to the benefit of the child. Notice that so-called followup studies always evaluate after 2 months or so and then a year, never more than that. It is later that the shit really hits the fan. Nobody appreciates having their mind fucked with and there is understandably a certain and expected amount of rage that erupts as a backlash to that. It is an undeniable assault to the dignity and the autonomy of the human spirit. You can not disrespect a kid more than that.
--- End quote ---
I found the following quote on the ISACCORP website. Really bizarre!! It was written by Joe Gauld the founder of Hyde Schools.
Since kids - and their parents have been far more immersed in this counter growth culture than has Hyde, Hyde can be far more objective about how to best address the true growth needs of kids. And given the limited time available, Hyde insists on being the final judge on growth issues. We are in a better position than parents to determine a students true best, and further we consider our commitment to help each student realize that best a sacred trust.
--- End quote ---
This Joe Gauld character (speaking of character education) sounds like a man with delusions of grandeur. Hyde must be quite a place with someone like him at the helm. I can picture him berating students and acting quite sanctimoniously. Is that the right profile?
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The words "obedience" and "submission" come to mind when I think of the "Hyde Experience." Seems that this Joe Gauld who runs the place believes he is the messiah! After reading some of this material on this website I would say that this Hyde School is as close to a Cult as they come.
The question at this point might be, how can you help change Hyde School or is it beyond repair and should it be shut down? Will the administration listen to constructive critism and are they willing to make some changes that could include changing their hiring practices? Are they willing to take a look at themselves and turn over the reigns to people better qualified to give a true Character Educatiion which includes positive reinforcement? Are they willing to have professional staff living on campus who will deal with problems such as depression, anorexia, drug and alcohol abuse? How about these kids who have had some form of sexual abuse both at home and at the hands of Hyde? What does Hyde do for them other than seminaring?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Ursus"" ---Well, I suppose one could say he has his "endearing qualities," but then so did Jim Jones and we all know now how that scenario ended up. I think the correct term might be one of a few rather unflattering profiles in a Psychology 101 textbook, which I feel constrained to elaborate on at the moment...
see here for the full pontification:
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=17336&start=14
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Some one posted on this site a description of a set of personal behaviors. You read down the list and you say "yup,thats Joe, yup thats Joe ..." then you get to the end. The description is of Adolf Hitler. Pretty shocking. Joe and Adolf had the same bad family dynamic" doting mother, strict step father. Perhaps one of you dedicated anti-cooersive types could fish that out and post it here.
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