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Offline Antigen

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« on: August 22, 2006, 07:38:46 PM »
The last word in Prohibition. But.
But if you think the drug war has been a failure, you?re missing the underlying reality. Ok, miss it. You can?t take people there. We have to maintain the illusion that everyone is well-intentioned, just a)incompetent b)stupid c)misguided d)taking orders e)not responsible for unintended consequences. What you can?t do is point out that the drug war has been a tremendous success, in the same way Lapham described Iraq as a success. We talk about cost, we don?t point out that one man?s cost is another man?s pay. We talk about incarceration. We avoid confronting what a brilliant tactic it is. We defeated the Indians and the Russians with alcohol. The lesson wasn?t lost. Without drugs, how would we have run our Latin America policy, how would we have marginalized the Left, how would we decimated Black society? You think it?s been a failure?! You?re missing the point.

Nonetheless:

LEAP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LayaGk0T ... %5Fdish%2F
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Offline Anne Bonney

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2006, 09:04:19 PM »
Gotta love LEAP.  Here's the Cowboy Cop who rode his horse across country with a T-shirt that read, "Cops say legalize drugs, ask me why".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AD29jsr ... ed&search=
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2006, 09:10:09 PM »
That's encouraging!
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Offline Anne Bonney

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2006, 09:19:09 PM »
http://www.leap.cc/


Even Uncle Walter approves of this message!


"Anyone concerned about the failure of our $69 billion-a-year War on Drugs should watch this 12-minute program. You will meet front line, ranking police officers who give us a devastating report on why it cannot work. It is a must-see for any journalist or public official dealing with this issue."

-- Walter Cronkite
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2006, 09:20:16 PM »
I'm gonna try to spark up with the first cop I see tomorrow!  :rofl:
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2006, 09:23:07 PM »
Quote from: ""Ace of Spades""
I'm gonna try to spark up with the first cop I see tomorrow!  :rofl:


 ::bwahaha2::  Let us know how that works out.  


Speaking of sparking, it's about that time.  :smokin:
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2006, 09:27:55 PM »
I will :tup: :D

Sparked earlier. Had a beer & there's no more so now it's vodka.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2006, 09:37:03 PM »
Cheers ::cheers::


Think I'm gonna go down to this little bar in a bit with one of my kids.  It's really cool.  Hippie place, very laid back, has a garden area with hammocks and swings.  There's always a sweet smell wafting through that place and no one ever gets hassled. :D
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2006, 09:37:58 PM »
FL sounds better than I thought it was!
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2006, 09:44:31 PM »
Very cool post, thanks for the encouragement!
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Offline Anne Bonney

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2006, 09:45:43 PM »
Yes and no.  Gotta know the right spots.  :wink:  The politics suck, weather's great, most people are great (if you know the spots), snowbirds suck, bored retirees appointing themselves code nazis suck.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2006, 07:45:06 PM »
one thing I dont get. The cops are mentioing that 19 yr old students who I assume had fairly clean records could be put away for years for offering a joint to their friends. Why on earth would any judge send a kid that young to jail for such a small matter?

Even if  the police arrested the kid, the court system is at fault here too in it's extreme sentencing.   If they are serious about stopping the availablity of drugs why would they not focus their energies on big time dealers and trafficers? The whole point of law enforcement is to serve and protect the community.

A sideline tangent story. In the smaller cities here policing is much different when it comes to dealing with small time issues.  I grew up in a provincial city. When i was 16 a girlfriend and i got obscenely drunk and she got stoned as well. We decided to forgo a cab and walk home through a dangerous park late at night. The cops who were patrolling found us and made us get in the car and drove us home. We were both feeling a little paranoind about what they would seach and find! They parked down the street and lectured us on doing stupid things that could get ourselves hurt & mentioned that drinking underage was illegal and then watched us safely go inside the house and drove off. They told us that if there was a next time they would escort us to the door which would not impress our parents. We were not even searched. Police are supposed to keep the community safe from harm and catch actual crims!
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2006, 07:54:13 PM »
Quote from: ""Pls help""
If they are serious about stopping the availablity of drugs why would they not focus their energies on big time dealers and trafficers?



Why not just take it out of the criminal element completely?  The reason there is crime surrounding drugs is not due to drug use, it's because of prohibition (Al Capone).  Legalize it, regulate it, tax it.  Same as alcohol or tobacco.

And to head off the inevitable........kids already have access to drugs, legalizing won't make it more available, it'll make it less.  Marijuana is not, I repeat NOT a gateway drug.  That's a myth.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2006, 08:04:33 PM »
Nobody seems able to explain that. It's just crazy. But it does give some context, I think, in which you might better understand these other excesses of the drug war.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2006, 08:05:20 PM »
Quote from: ""Pls help""
one thing I dont get. The cops are mentioing that 19 yr old students who I assume had fairly clean records could be put away for years for offering a joit to their friends. Why on earth would any judge send a kid that young to jail for such a small matter?

Maybe because they're "niggers"?.. just a guess...
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