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What do you think of the upgrade?

This rocks
3 (60%)
This sucks, go back to the old version
0 (0%)
Huh? What are you talking about, looks the same to me, gimme another beer
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What do you think of the software upgrade?
« on: July 14, 2006, 04:41:41 AM »
Ok, folks, what do you think so far?
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2006, 09:19:27 AM »
I like it alright; but this ~newest look you've changed to today seems a bit 'scattered' ...hard to explain... Froderik
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2006, 09:20:19 AM »
Yeah, there's not enough separation -- hard to tell whose post is whose.. (me again, Frod)
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2006, 10:46:09 AM »
If it's gonna look like this it might as well go back to the old way. My .02
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2006, 11:38:42 AM »
I'm confused. When I open Fornits from a bookmark I get a page with gold banners (headers, whatever they're called) with a bugandy colored font.
After I log in it goes back to the blue with black font.

I don't like the burgandy font- too light, hard to read. I agree with the previous poster, the gold/burgandy format is too run together. The lines seperating posts are too light in color.
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2006, 01:15:50 PM »
I set the default theme to the new one I'm working on. When you're logged in, you have it set to subSilver, which is the default that it came with out of the box.

You're right, Frod. I just have to tweak and play a bit more to get those header rows showing how I want them to. There's also an extra one sided border on some of the headers. I don't like that!! I'll get to it when I can, though.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2006, 01:56:23 PM »
I miss the random quotations. Ya had a cool collection of those. :smokin:
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2006, 03:40:45 PM »
yeh, and "who's online" and that the forums on the index aren't bumped up when a post is made to them. search times out too quickly- execute a search, read one of the posts that is returned, go back to the list of returns and that page has "timed out". re-enter search criteria... and repeat.
lots of changes. i guess we'll adjust.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2006, 04:54:16 PM »
There are some pros and cons.

pro: you can upload your own pic
con: stricter character limit for username
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2006, 05:17:58 PM »
Deborah, thanks for all your feedback. That's a vital part of working out the bugs. The timeout could have been a result of an apache restart. There's going to be a few burps here and there. But, the upgrade was absolutely necessary for a lot of reasons.

And the limit on the length of usernames (25 chars) is hardcoded into phpbb. Not alot that can be done about that, short of modifying the actual code. Too many modifications to the core stuff is just going to open up a can of worms, and make it a real pain to add security patches/bug fixes in the future, as they are released by the developers.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2006, 07:21:09 PM »
Not that big a deal.

I'd recommend you reorganize the forum though. The forum list being modified to put the last-posted forum was a very nice feature. Right now it's just chaos. Why not organize it with the main Troubled Teen and new Info Forums on top, then a list of the current programs, then the defunct ones?

And for the love of Satan turn the BBCode back on.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2006, 07:31:32 PM »
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penal""
And for the love of Satan turn the BBCode back on.


It is on. You might want to check the preferences in your profile.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2006, 09:55:19 AM »
Hey TJ,
Your welcome. And don't take my "bitchin" personally. I'll live with the changes because they appear to have been necessary, but 'so far' it does seem that the software is inferior to the old in several ways, particularly in terms of ease of discussion.
Another problem I discovered this morning. If you click a link in a message for an old Forntis post, like this one:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=40#60164
it takes you to the forum index.
This makes many of the old posts pretty useless, as people often linked to the answer to something, rather than repeat it.
Will that ever change, or is that feature gone forever?
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2006, 02:54:19 PM »
Quote from: ""Deborah""
Hey TJ,
Your welcome. And don't take my "bitchin" personally. I'll live with the changes because they appear to have been necessary, but 'so far' it does seem that the software is inferior to the old in several ways, particularly in terms of ease of discussion.
Another problem I discovered this morning. If you click a link in a message for an old Forntis post, like this one:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=40#60164
it takes you to the forum index.
This makes many of the old posts pretty useless, as people often linked to the answer to something, rather than repeat it.
Will that ever change, or is that feature gone forever?


Well, I know what you mean, when you say "inferior". But I think a more accurate term to use would be "immature". PhpBB2 was total rewrite, from the ground up. The old version had so many security weaknesses in it, rather than just fixing them, the developers decided to just start over from scratch. There was one issue a while back, where phpbb was actually used to spread a virus.

This is only version 2.0.21, so really, it's more like a version 1.0.21. There are a lot of imporovements and feature enhancements, but there are also still quite a few bugs. Also, Ginger had been hacking and modifying the old board for about 5 years, so she had cutomized a lot of things, and those modifications were totally lost.

But no, nothing is lost forever, it's just going to take some time, and hopefully, things will eventually be even better than before. I'd really love to get directly involved with some of the development of the software itself, because I can see lots of things that need work, and there are a lot of features that could be added. But, right now, we're really busy, mostly with the things going on behind the scenes, related to the underlying systems that make everything work. I was fortunate to have enough free time lately, that I've been able to do pretty much nothing else except this for the past month or so.

I am aware of the issue with the old links, and I do think that's something else that is fixable. The variable names in the query strings have changed, so any links from the old board will just return a 404, File Not Found error. I just set things up to redirect those back to the main index, for now.

Anyway, like I said, it will take some time, probably not just days or weeks. But things will definitely get better.
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2006, 03:29:32 PM »
Quote from: ""Deborah""
I'm confused. When I open Fornits from a bookmark I get a page with gold banners (headers, whatever they're called) with a bugandy colored font.
After I log in it goes back to the blue with black font.

delete your old bookmark and create a new one, empty your cache
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