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Offline Carmel

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Who wins the prize as the most Cult like program?
« on: June 24, 2006, 10:50:00 PM »
This seems a little prurient....I mean, whats the difference? There was no "cult-like' if you really consider it. They are all cults, plain and simple.

Like a grand plume of offshoot cults stemming from the the same old time-tested rotten methodology.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2006, 10:59:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-24 19:55:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"Of course they are all cults. I am curious to which is the most blatantly cult like. Some programs at least attempt to cover up their cultiness with a thin veneer of some psuedo-babble they pass off as treatment. Others do not even bother with that, they just go full banana nutty cult.

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2006, 05:23:00 AM »
In my experience the cult like aspects of the program are not the ones that effect the child. They don't need to be. Trapped in a situation and entirely at the mercy of their keepers for an undetermined amount of time eventually the kid is going to break so the cult like aspect is unimportant.

The Cult-like activity is much more significant in the program-parent interaction as the program needs to gain and maintain control over the thinking processes of a grown adult who can walk out at any time. Therefore inmho the most cultlike group is WWASPS using the Gilcrease model seminars.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2006, 05:43:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-25 02:23:00, MightyAardvark wrote:

"Therefore inmho the most cultlike group is WWASPS using the Gilcrease model seminars."


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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2006, 07:49:00 PM »
done and done. [ This Message was edited by: Three Springs Waygookin on 2006-06-25 17:30 ]
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2006, 11:14:00 PM »
Let me guess, the first request by Who was to delete his post and the second was to ban him from your forum forever?

Back to the topic, WWASPS is run by a Mormon in Utah. Pretty sure that cinches the cult title.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2006, 11:17:00 PM »
Straight, Inc is by far the most cult-like!

Don't ask me how I know this; I just know...
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2006, 09:33:00 AM »
Roloff was an independent, baptist preacher, Hell bent on rehabilitating youth. Went to great lengths to avoid state regulation. He used to travel around Tx holding revivals in tents. Radical fundy.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2006, 10:35:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-26 00:47:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"Nah the who annoyed me with his crap so I erased it, then he asked if I was from North Korea so I erased it again.



Straight and WWASP hmmmmm



Who did that freak Rolof work for?

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North Korea?
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2006, 12:09:00 PM »
Nothing will ever come close to Synanon. It was from this cult that all of the behavior modification programs were born. :wave:

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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2006, 02:08:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-25 02:23:00, MightyAardvark wrote:

"In my experience the cult like aspects of the program are not the ones that effect the child. They don't need to be. Trapped in a situation and entirely at the mercy of their keepers for an undetermined amount of time eventually the kid is going to break so the cult like aspect is unimportant.



The Cult-like activity is much more significant in the program-parent interaction as the program needs to gain and maintain control over the thinking processes of a grown adult who can walk out at any time. Therefore inmho the most cultlike group is WWASPS using the Gilcrease model seminars.



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To expand on the program-parent thing, at Hyde the demands for money were a big part of that. Hyde also used parent seminars and most of those were also pitches for "donations" - over and above what the parents were paying for the already high tuition. In addition to enriching the Hyde people, the "donations" were intended to prove the parents' commitment to Hyde and lack of same could cause your kid to be treated horribly (as I learned). But the more money a parent gave to Hyde, the more they got sucked into the program themselves and the less likely they were to listen to their kids.
As to "the most cultlike" I gotta go with Odie. Synanon is the only rehab cult I know of that got an inmate to commit murder for them.

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2006, 06:27:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-25 16:24:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:

"That is one scary looking little bastard. Still other than your opinion MA what supporting facts do you have to report to support your claim?

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My nomination is based on the following... Every other program conditions it's inmates through various interpretations of milieu control. It's not hard to get people to internalise your ideas when you hold almost limitless power over them.
Therefore the inmate murders etc are less impressive as a demonstration of technical skill than, say persuading an intelligent and articulate parents to voluntarily part with $40000 of ther hard earned money to have their kids treated like criminals. WWASPS conditions parents without recourse to the most important supporting principle of thought reform and that my friends is pretty fucking scary.
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2006, 09:32:00 AM »
With reference back to the original question, neither of those two things (freakaleak ceremonies or homicides) are intrinsic features of cults or cult-like organisations. While I agree that both of those organisations are really scary they are still less cult like than wwasps.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2006, 02:47:00 AM »
You're right that is remarkably unsettling.
I think we might have a case for separate catagories here.

Fornits cultiness award for best programming techniques goes to...(sound of opening envelope)... David Gilcrease of WWASPS

Fornits Cultiness award for most bizarre practices goes to CEDU....
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2006, 01:53:00 PM »
I hear Hyde is pretty cult-like.

I almost got sent there... *phew*
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