The Who

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Not really, but only because he sells SUWS and ASR to parents here for referral cash.  If he's allowed to represent things the way he'd like to, it could easily lead to more battered, abuse or dead kids.  Just because he had his kid killed doesn't mean I should let him set some other kid up for the same.  That makes no sense at all.  Personally, regardless of his experience with his kid's suicide, I think it's wrong on its face to allow him snooker more families.  If he needs a therapist, which he obviously does, he ought to get counseling to deal with his myriad personality disorders (an opportunity he should have given his son instead of railroading him into SUWS and ASR).  One dead kid is too many, no matter whose kid he was.

[TheWho]

Hey check this out, I think RobertBruce is talking to himself again

RobertBruces own words:
"I guess there isnt much point in hiding it. TheWho and I are one and the same. I created the character a few years ago as a means of serving as a lightining rod for programmies. I'd been posting on here for about 2.5 years when I came up with the idea. I wanted to give all the anti-program posters an opportunity to showcase everything that's sick and wrong with this industry....."

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Another question that has not been answered:
I guess we can agree that TheWho character was abusive, but the question remains as to why you would hide behind this user name and take pot shots at fellow survivors?  Rip into Dysfunction Junction every chance you got, making him look like a fool......What was gained by that Bruce?  Was it because he was an ex-HLA Staff member?

[Anonymous]

Nothing to see here.... now move along.

 :twofinger:

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The above post is a phony.  The user "RobertBruces" was made up by The Who to try to make RobertBruce look bad.  More evidence that the anon poster is The Who: he's the only person alive today that would say The Who "made DJ look like a fool."  Only a massive ego like The Who could even suggest this.  

It is true that RobertBruces and The Who are the same person, but "RobertBruces" shouldn't be confused with "RobertBruce."  RobertBruces is a parody of RobertBruce.

Really, Who.  All you can come up with is "RobertBruces did it and RobertBruces is RobertBruce"?  Not cutting it.

EDIT: Reminder that Whooter created a lookalike account to RobertBruce's.  Twisted.

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OK, here's The Who lying through his teeth yet again (surprise, surprise).

THIS is the original beginning of the argument where YOU said "The overwhelming majority of professionals believe these schools are making a big difference in these kids lives and are responsible for turning them around and getting them on track..."  This is the very beginning.  You also went back and edited your post later to remove this, but, of course I had already quoted you, so the cat was out of the bag at that point.

On 2006-06-21 09:21:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

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The overwhelming majority of professionals believe these schools are making a big difference in these kids lives and are responsible for turning them around and getting them on track...

This is an unmitigated crock of shit.  Show the documentation that supports this ridiculous notion.

And yes I believe we are all on equal footing and have a right to state our opinions from our own experiences.

Everyone here has the unabridged right to post what they want.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  



Your opinion happens to be wrong.  It is so wrong that you have to fabricate statements like the one above stating the "overwhelming majority of professionals" recommend this treatment.  You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.  But, hey, that never stops you! :lol:
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Again, I'll ask you:  Can you provide evidence that "The overwhelming majority of professionals believe these schools are making a big difference in these kids lives and are responsible for turning them around and getting them on track..." or can't you?

You've spent two days dodging the issue, editing your posts and lying like a rug to avoid answering for this statement.  You said it, now back it up.

You also said "The professionals don't agree with you, DJ" but I was able to provide a list of at least 130 individuals and a half-dozen professional societies consisting of thousands of members.  You have provided exactly NOTHING to support your claim.

That's the difference between you and me, Who.  I say what I mean, I am accountable for it and provide evidence to support it.  You lie, make things up, edit your posts to remove the lies you've been caught in and sign my name to anonymous posts that I didn't write.

You are a pathetic individual.

Looks like you're up to the same tricks you were using three years ago - editing posts, signing other people's names to anonymous posts and trolling like a salmon fisherman.  It's old and pathetic, dude.  Did you lose your job or something?  Or are you still just upset that your wife ditched you?  Get over it, man.  and give us some good troll-cheese.  This "RobertBruces did it" theme is boring.

Pinched again.

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Dang, Who.  Have you been up all night again?  Seriously, man, do you do anything other than troll your namesake thread pretending not to be yourself?  You're not even fun to play with anymore.  You're consumed by Fornits.  You're a shadow of your former professional troll self.  

I am very disappointed in the quality of your effort, as it appears you've been fully owned by a small pack of anons beating you at your own game.  Ever thought about retiring from the trolling business?  

I hate to say this, but I'm actually worried about this guy's well-being.  I mean, this is a herculean effort to polish a turd.  Who, please, for your own sake, you can't burnish your shit-like reputation.  You've fallen too far to get back any semblance of credibility.  Do you see what you've been reduced to?  This really is sad to watch, my friends.

I agree, and I'm struck by the sadness aspect of it.  It is really the truth that a once proud man has been reduced to arguing with an abused child on the internet to get his rocks off.  I agree with an earlier poster that the child abuse industry has done this fellow in.  They basically caused the death of his son and now they've pimped him out to try to get more people's kids into the same abusive situation.  The Who has finally been used up completely by the Aspen Group and it really is very sad.

[TheWho]

Exactly who is it that you are trying to have take responsibility for your own posts Bruce?  Why did you post that garbage under TheWho username to begin with?  Its always good to start at the source:

my  confession

Why are you trying to make Dysfunction Junction look like a jerk all the time RobertBruce/TheWho or what ever your name is.  What did he ever do to you?  Like DJ said, why do you stay up all night writting this crap.  Back when you were posting as TheWho and RobertBruce you at least took a few breaks... you seemed consumed by it all now.

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Dang, Who.  Have you been up all night again?  Seriously, man, do you do anything other than troll your namesake thread pretending not to be yourself?  You're not even fun to play with anymore.  You're consumed by Fornits.  You're a shadow of your former professional troll self.  

I am very disappointed in the quality of your effort, as it appears you've been fully owned by a small pack of anons beating you at your own game.  Ever thought about retiring from the trolling business?  

I hate to say this, but I'm actually worried about this guy's well-being.  I mean, this is a herculean effort to polish a turd.  Who, please, for your own sake, you can't burnish your shit-like reputation.  You've fallen too far to get back any semblance of credibility.  Do you see what you've been reduced to?  This really is sad to watch, my friends.

I agree, and I'm struck by the sadness aspect of it.  It is really the truth that a once proud man has been reduced to arguing with an abused child on the internet to get his rocks off.  I agree with an earlier poster that the child abuse industry has done this fellow in.  They basically caused the death of his son and now they've pimped him out to try to get more people's kids into the same abusive situation.  The Who has finally been used up completely by the Aspen Group and it really is very sad.

It's hard to watch.  He's like a junkie on his deathbed that keeps sticking the needle in his arm.  Fornits is the cause of, and solution to, all of The Who's problems.  Get a grip, Who.  You're in rough shape if all you can come up with is "RobertBruces did it" and just say it over and over.  Don't you get tired of your flailing?

[Anonymous]

^ and do you ever get tired trying to talk sense into a troll?

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I personally dont believe every pro kiddie gulag poster on here is Cindy, but that being said he has posted under different usernames or claimed to be seperate individuals all with different connections to the industry. Run a search for Littlecats and see what you come up with. Early on in his postings he played this game of posting under multiple names and was stupid enough to give Deborah permission to link all his posts. Once done he was shocked to discover that he had been exposed. He tried to claim he'd been set up, but his prose and lack of thought shines through in whatever guise he uses. Whatsmore, this is the same guy who when I stopped posting for several months began accusing every poster who shot down his arguments (it isnt hard, he's a moron) of being me. When that got old he began posting under a new name pretending to be me, and having arguments with himself, and still somehow losing. This guy is a mess. I stand by my comments from last night, he's an idiot who couldnt reason his way out of a cardboard box. Keep giving him enough rope, he'll do the damage to himself and tuck his tail and run like he always does.

Yes, I remember this, too.  All of The Who's posts were linked up under a single username, and guess what?  None of RB's posts were included, just The Who's and a few other names he's been posting under.  Hah ha ha.  For someone who hates to be linked to his alter-egos, you beat the "RobertBruces Did It" drum pretty hard.  Epic lulz.

[TheWho]

Exactly who is it that you are trying to have take responsibility for your own posts Bruce?  Why did you post that garbage under TheWho username to begin with?  Its always good to start at the source:

my  confession

Why are you trying to make Dysfunction Junction look like a jerk all the time RobertBruce/TheWho or what ever your name is.  What did he ever do to you?  Like DJ said, why do you stay up all night writting this crap.  Back when you were posting as TheWho and RobertBruce you at least took a few breaks... you seemed consumed by it all now.

I have been reading here for awhile and the only connection that I can find is that RobertBruce  attended HLA and Dysfunction Junction was on staff there.  I think that the only reason RobertBruce made up TheWho character is because he wanted to attack Dysfunction junction as sort of payback for his grief at HLA without him knowing who it was that was making him look like a fool.  Bruce got some pleasure from this.
It kind of makes sense now that RobertBruce has come out from behind the curtain.

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Oops!  The Who caught lying again.

Some time ago The Who's posts were linked up under his username.  Starngely, RB was posting at the same time period, but none of RB's posts showed up under The Who's user name.  

Only The Who's posts under his various names, none of which were RB, BTW were tied together.  If RB ever posted, even one time, from the same network as The who, all of his posts would be tied together with Who's.  But, they weren't.

This hurts, Who.  Your ruse is now permanently disabled.  Too bad.  I enjoyed watching you squirm, but now you'll have to find some new meme to hammer on...

[Anonymous]

^ HEY MOMMY LOOK AT THAT CRAZY PERSON ^

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Oops!  The Who caught lying again.

Some time ago The Who's posts were linked up under his username.  Starngely, RB was posting at the same time period, but none of RB's posts showed up under The Who's user name.  

Only The Who's posts under his various names, none of which were RB, BTW were tied together.  If RB ever posted, even one time, from the same network as The who, all of his posts would be tied together with Who's.  But, they weren't.

This hurts, Who.  Your ruse is now permanently disabled.  Too bad.  I enjoyed watching you squirm, but now you'll have to find some new meme to hammer on...

Oh, this is rich.

On 2006-01-25 09:25:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

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On 2006-01-25 09:15:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2006-01-25 09:05:00, RobertBruce wrote:



"I find your tactics to be questionable at best.







Are you a parent of a teen in a place like this?







Are you a person who works for one of these institutions doing bullshit surveys?







Or are you a burnt out drug addict?"

I am a parent of a teen that attended a program and a parent to several others."

And, according to yor other posts, a burnt out drug addict as well.



In any case, I have no problem debating you.  You're bringing a knife to gunfight.  Just stick to the topic of the thread and if you want to talk about something else, start a new thread.  Stop mucking up the forum with digression.  



That's why people get mad.  This is the proven tactic of HLA's staff.  They muck up the forum so badly with stuff that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic that people then cannot find what they are looking for.  Then Deborah, an unpaid, thankless moderator has to spen her own personal time clearing the threads of your idiotic commentary.  Why should she have to clean up your mess?
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What is your problem?

I exposed all my posts for you to read, I did nothing but debate and, as you have read, I am not a member of any school, just a parent.

I have never caused or asked antigen to do any work.

You were the one who got frustrated with my position and asked Antigen to spend time researching me....... and what did you find?

1 wayward post which depicts me as a drug addict who is in highschool .... so either you dont want to debate high school drug addicts or parents who dont agree with you, why do you have to be so thin skinned, all debates dont have to go your way, sometimes other people are right.

I get frustrated with many other peoples positions on topics but I dont ask Antigen to do background checks on them to find some dirt...

Grow-up.

Little cats

What did we find, you ask?  Well, for starters, you and RB have nothing in common and your posts are not his or vice-versa.  Proven fact, wingnut.

Now let's move on to your next strategy.  Come on, Who, let's roll.

[TheWho]

Oops!  The Who caught lying again.

Some time ago The Who's posts were linked up under his username.  Starngely, RB was posting at the same time period, but none of RB's posts showed up under The Who's user name.  

Only The Who's posts under his various names, none of which were RB, BTW were tied together.  If RB ever posted, even one time, from the same network as The who, all of his posts would be tied together with Who's.  But, they weren't.

This hurts, Who.  Your ruse is now permanently disabled.  Too bad.  I enjoyed watching you squirm, but now you'll have to find some new meme to hammer on...

TheWho/RobertBruce  what ever he calls himself now always posted together and it was always curious to me.  But after Bruce sold the name off to Ursus he then confessed that he was the man behind TheWho mask.  It was a good ruse but I think many of his posts crossed the line in making fun of fellow survivors which comes from having no accountability for his actions.  But Bruces time has come and he doesnt like the reception has gotten since revealing his secret:

my  confession