Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
Where to really go to get help (for parents and children ali
Anonymous:
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On 2006-06-20 05:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
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Is that the right way to treat that learning disabled child? Personally, I don't think so - and I don't think that the majority of other people would think so either. A dyslexic person does not have the ability to self-correct. They need specialized training to help them learn how to read, write and work in an environment that isn't exactly friendly to people with this difficulty.
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I am dyslexic. I went to hyde I recieved no special consideration for my reading problems. I learned to adapt. I went on to great academic success. BTW I have many OSFA ball caps w/ the adjustable clip. I love them the only fit to size ball cap I have I do not like. So there you have it."
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You went on to great academic success? What about your character?
It is obvious you are saying that a child with ADD, ADHD or dyslexia can benefit from Hyde. You are doing everyone coming to this board a disservice by saying this, and this is exactly what the problem at Hyde is. Hyde is NOT equip to help students with learning disabilities! Hyde needs to stop taking people's money just to raise the student population. Hyde School should only accept those who they can help. Stop accepting almost all applicants! As Fletch said they then end up hurting both the ones they can't help as well as the ones they can. If you really want to become the best you can listen to what people are saying, Hyde!!!!"
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--- Quote ---It is obvious you are saying that a child with ADD, ADHD or dyslexia can benefit from Hyde. You are doing everyone coming to this board a disservice by saying this
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The truth will set you free. Truth is I am dyslexic. I went to hyde. I have no problems with my dyslexic - isms actually I like them so help me dog. I said nothing about ADD ADHD. My charater is fine thanks. How is yours?
Hyde is a player in a free market. Hyde sells a service. They can and should offer to provide that sevice to whom ever they choose as thier target demographic. It is up to the consumers to decide if they want to go. If you want to send your kid to Hyde that is your choice as a consumer. I don't know where you get off telling a private non profit that you are not involved in how to run thier business. They have a Board of Governors for that. Hey if you care so much send Joe an email and tell him you want on the BoG.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---The truth will set you free. Truth is I am dyslexic. I went to hyde. I have no problems with my dyslexic - isms actually I like them so help me dog. I said nothing about ADD ADHD. My charater is fine thanks. How is yours?
Hyde is a player in a free market. Hyde sells a service. They can and should offer to provide that sevice to whom ever they choose as thier target demographic. It is up to the consumers to decide if they want to go. If you want to send your kid to Hyde that is your choice as a consumer. I don't know where you get off telling a private non profit that you are not involved in how to run thier business. They have a Board of Governors for that. Hey if you care so much send Joe an email and tell him you want on the BoG.
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Hey good buddy, the Board of Governors at Hyde is not based on people who have a sincere interest in Hyde unless you have the big bucks! Take a look at the names. These are mostly the inner circle and ones who give the big dollars to the school. Joe makes sure there is no one who is going to question his authority.
Where do I get off making suggestions to better a school? I went to Hyde. They taught me to speak out. What's the matter, you aren't interested in hearing about ways to improve Hyde? I wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting on the board. They are not interested in fresh, new, ideas!
fletch699:
--- Quote ---Hyde is a player in a free market. Hyde sells a service. They can and should offer to provide that sevice to whom ever they choose as thier target demographic. It is up to the consumers to decide if they want to go.
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OK... so hypothetically, are you saying that I, as a car rental agency, perhaps, should rent a vehicle to someone who is visibly intoxicated?
I would hope that your answer is "no" - that you would want me to exercise sound business judgement and realize that even though I lost the "sale" for the day, I might have saved the life of the intoxicated individual... and that of anyone s/he may have hit while trying to drive the car.
You are correct that Hyde does operate in a free market... and they can (and do) offer their services for sale to anyone who is willing and able to pay the fees for such services. The point some of us are trying to make here is that by selling these specific services, Hyde has created for themselves somewhat of an obligation to make sure that they're providing the right services to the buyer.
Maybe we could look at it another way. I don't know what you do for a living or how many service people you have hired to do something for you... but let's assume that a toilet in your house is clogged because you used too much toilet paper for a single flush. You call the plumber to come fix the toilet (as the plumber advertised in the yellow pages and online that they can fix clogged toilets).
When they get to your house, the plumber tells you that they sure can fix your toilet... and they quote you a price. You think the price is fair (let's say $300) and they say ok, pay me in advance, leave the house and come back in an hour and the toilet will be unclogged.
When you return home, you are really distressed to find the fire department at the street. Your house is a mess. There is a huge gaping hole through the wall where your bathroom used to be... charred wood and drywall drips with water from the fire department hoses. You're simply stunned to find out that while you were gone, the plumber used dynamite to blow out the clog in your toilet. Just then, the plumber walks up to you, shakes your hand and thanks you for your business, gets in his van and drives away.
How do you feel at this moment? Hurt? Scared? Upset? Angry? Ripped off?
The truth is that you bought a service (toilet unclogging), you relied on an "expert" to do the job (the plumber), and you trusted them to complete the job as they said (left for an hour). Are you allowed to be feeling those negative feelings now?
Because even if you asked questions in advance, I'm guessing that you did not think to ask if they were going to use explosives to clear the clog. I'm also guessing that you didn't ask whether the rest of your house was going to be intact when you got back. Rather, you put faith in the "expert's" ability to do what they said they could do.
And while this is an extreme example (note: it's somewhat based on a true story), the applicability to the Hyde experience for many parents and students rings true. Hyde promises a fix for a problem, but they do not exactly explain how they are going to get there... nor do they confess that if there are any non-character problems, that those won't be directly addressed. Parents, especially those of so-called troubled teens, don't think to ask in detail what they probably perceive to be common sense issues. (ie: my kid isn't going to get blown up in the process) Or, in other words, they're assuming that the child is going to be safe.
The problem is that because of the particular service that Hyde is selling, there is a chance of harm. And it isn't usually mentioned. Hyde does not disclose, in detail, that students with problems other than "character defects" aren't going to get attention for those other problems. Parents (and I'm guessing even more so for desperate parents) make the incorrect assumption that a school such as Hyde is fully equipped to handle a myriad of problems - not just one.
So, when you say:
--- Quote ---If you want to send your kid to Hyde that is your choice as a consumer. I don't know where you get off telling a private non profit that you are not involved in how to run thier business.
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the choice should be predecated on being fully informed. And, for the most part, prospective Hyde parents are not fully informed. Which, from a legal perspective, negates the ability to make a "choice."
What many of us are now saying, then, is that Hyde needs to do one of two things. They can either change their advertising and recruiting practices so that they only accept students who have the very limited defects that the Hyde solution was designed to fix. Or they can increase the social-services-types of offerings, as well as modify their other programs, so that they can adequately treat students with other types of problems.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---How do you feel at this moment? Hurt? Scared? Upset? Angry? Ripped off?
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No I only hire bonded tradesmen to work on my property. I collect from the trademan's insurance.
Anonymous:
--- Quote --- choice should be predecated on being fully informed. And, for the most part, prospective Hyde parents are not fully informed. Which, from a legal perspective, negates the ability to make a "choice."
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An uninformed choice is a choice. If some one wants to drop 35K with out gaining a level of information that meet _your_ standard of "fully informed" that is thier business.
BTW how did you become fully informed? How do you become fully informed that most of the parents that chose hyde are not "fully informed" Do you interview each and ever parent or do you do a statisical sample?
I would like to become fully informed of the nature of your fully informedness so I can make an informed decision at to whether you are full of ..... information.
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