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TheWho:

--- Quote ---On 2006-06-19 14:33:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

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This is a study/book written by Dave Marcus about his time at ASR:



http://www.davemarcus.com/


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God, you are a tedious bastard aren't you?  A book is not a study.  It's a book, written for profits.  Who, you are a vertiable fountain of misinformation.



Frank, where's that dead horse, man?
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Why do you keep discarding peoples work like Maia Szalavitz and Dave Marcus just because they make a profit.  Everyone needs to eat, DJ, do you work for free?

TheWho:

--- Quote ---On 2006-06-19 14:38:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

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Actually ASR has opened their doors to many people to observe and conduct studies


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This is a blatant lie.



They "opened their doors" to exactly one person to write a book that paints ASR in the most favorable light possible.  The so-called study that The Who keeps referencing was a mail survey designed by ASR with names and addresses of select persons chosen solely by ASR whose biased results were analyzed statistically by a grad student.  The results actually showed continuing clinical pathology despite the hand-picked ultra-biased sample.



Who, you've gone from misrepresentations to outright, bald-faced lies.  Your credibility is near zero if not zero.
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All I ask is that you read the studies and judge for yourself, the facts are there and their doors are open to academia (not to every joe off the street).  Sorry, DJ, it is true, the facts are there.



Okay now you can bring out the dead horses !!!

Anonymous:
The title of the thread is "Long term studies".  Neither of the links you provided qualify.  



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This is a study/book written by Dave Marcus about his time at ASR:

http://www.davemarcus.com/
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TheWho:

--- Quote ---On 2006-06-19 17:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The title of the thread is "Long term studies".  Neither of the links you provided qualify.  






--- Quote --- http://groups.colgeduate./cjs/student_p ... hapiro.pdf



This is a study/book written by Dave Marcus about his time at ASR:



http://www.davemarcus.com/
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Valid point,Anon,  someone asked for those links I believe.  So I guess we should step back and define a length of time which could be considered "Long Term" and define these as our boundary conditions for future debate.

Whomever started this thread, we have a request to define "Long Term Study" as it should be discussed on this thread.

MightyAardvark:

--- Quote ---On 2006-06-17 07:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-06-17 07:37:00, MightyAardvark wrote:


"Hi there.


Charley and I are working on this. Would the original poster drop me a line and we can compare notes.





mightyaardvark@gmail.com


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Who is Charely?"

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Dr. Charles Huffine.

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