Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Majestic Ranch info please
BuzzKill:
///I also recall reading of an occasion where Dan Pert drug a Llama near to death and left it tied to a fence to finish dying. I can't find it now - maybe someone else will know where that was posted.///
here it is:
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/ ... 1095707693
name withheld (198.81.26.106)
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 12:46 am:
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I understand what these boy are saying 100% I havce been a staff member at majestic ranch academy (UT) for sometime and am currently doing my best to see that the place is shut down. I can attest to the facts that students at this establishment are continually neglected, mistreated and downright ABUSED both physically and mentally. The administration cares nothing about the welfare of the students or thier progress, on more than one occasion, I have seen students doing very well (too well) slammed down to level one from level 3 or even 4 for no reason at all, except of course for the fact the buisness loses money if a student is able to graduate in half the time that it "normally" takes. I myself have heard the assistant director, Wayne Winder tell a 14 year old boy that he was stupid, would never graduate and all we were doing was milking his parent's money. the average staff to student ratio at MR is 1 to 10 on a good day. These students are supposed to be learning how to take care of a ranch and care for animals right? Wrong. They very rarely have any contact with animals on the ranch, ALL of which are in very poor condition. The owner of the ranch, Dan Peart has been known to shoot dogs because the students pet them. One of my students told me one day that while working with Dan he witnessed him (dan) drag a live llama on the ground behind a horse at a full run for quite a distance. after he stopped, he tied the wounded animal to a fence and left it, telling the boys,"I don't care if you kill that damn ting" I have heard stories from other students of dan stopping his truck, (with boys inside) pulling a rifle from behind his seat to shoot deer and leave their bodies where they lay. Is this how we should teach children to care for animals? There are so many problems with this company, it is a truly terrible enviroment for children. If you have been thinking about sending your child to a wwasp program, DON'T DO IT!!!!! And if you have children in a program, YOU ARE BEING LIED TO AND YOUR CHILDREN ARE NOT SAFE!!! For their sake please pull them from wwasp programs as soon as possible. I promise you that all the staements on this message are 100% factual
Anonymous:
Are you still a staff member @ majestic ranch buzz kill? If so & it becomes necessary Can I get you to email my brother? He is likely to listen more to a staff rep. His big claim is that the people that he and his wifew spoke to on the phone were "professional and compassionate" Of course they were. They stood to gain 3000 a month!!!!
I am assuming that if you are lobbying to get the place shut down you are in contact with the office of george miller. Obviously these wwasp people have a stanglehold of power in utah. What about the more moderate states? What are they doing to get them shut down.
I have gotten my brother to agree to let my niece come to australia for a holiday over the summer holidays for a few weeks so that @ least buys time & puts her where i can see her.
Anonymous:
WWASP marketers are in it for the commission. So, if your brother calls and wants a school for kids with dyslexia, they would tell you that 80% of their students have it and that their treatment is 99.99999% effective in curing them. They would tell you anything, and none of it will be in writing so it doesn't matter what they say.
Parents ask WWASP's salespersons about things like that they are worried about their kid learning about other bad things, and the salespeople lie and say that the kids don't have any time unsupervised to tell war stories. Yeah right!
Just know that your brother will receive many high pressure follow-up sales calls urging him to save his daughter's life before it's too late, and that they can be so convincing that he might feel that he must have her kidnapped away or she could die or face a terrible fate. Also, know that the marketers read this site, so they're aware that he's being educated on the true colors of WWASP.
Oz girl:
I have now registered under the above name.
I can understand how a parent falls for high pressure slaes tactics when they have a teenager in trouble with the law or with a drug prblem that they are desperate to adress. I just do not get what they could possibly say to the parent of a relatively untroubled 10 year old who has special learning needs to convince them of any kind of urgency. I strongly suspect that they are selling it as some kind of year round summer camp with a special ed component. I would be extremely curious as to what they could say to get around the fact that the principal of the school was charged with sexual abuse.
The last time i spoke to my brother he mentioned that he was advised most kids will say bad things about the place because they are homesick & I note this seems to be a common theme in their pitch & an issue which comes up in these forums. I am amazed that this does not arouse suspicion in parents and make them come for a visit unannounced regardless of what the school says the rules are. The school i attended as a teenager had a boarding wing & I boarded in the US for a few months on exchange. In both schools boarders were made to write home (uncensored) every week and there were regular family days etc. The only limit was that parents @ the Australian school could not visit for the first few weeks of a new students stay & this was to help the child overcome homesickness. (I dont know how well it worked)
I would imagine that if your child were troubled in some way you would want to visit more as they need you more. It is obvously not a financial issue for parents who can afford 3 grand a month. Isnt that what universities like harvard charge?
BuzzKill:
So very sorry Pls Help - I, BuzzKill , have never worked for wwasp. I have simply copy/pasted a post from another board - and provided the link as well, in case you'd like to see the entire thread on that forum.
The staff member posted anonymously, so there is no real way to contact them. It is regrettable. However, there are the affidavits given by Majestic Ranch staff member that have been mentioned. They have the person's names, naturally. Its been awhile since I read them, but as I recall, they co-oberate the account this anon poster made that I copied here.
You wrote: I strongly suspect that they are selling it as some kind of year round summer camp with a special ed component.
I strongly suspect you are right!
They sell the parent, what ever it is the parent is looking for. What the parent is actually getting, is something else all together. You seem to be getting it figured out pretty quickly. I hope your brother can learn as fast.
In case you wonder - I am a parent of a once upon a time Program kid. I learned after the fact that I had been lied to and manipulated - and I do Not mean by my son. I can talk about that - my experience as a parent, if you think that would help.
Please send your brother a copy of "Help at Any Cost". It explains the history of this kind of treatment modality; its realities, and its effects, very clearly. Please tell him to slow down - take hihs time - and do some research. He must not allow himself to get all his information from those who stand to enrich themselves through his daughter's placement/suffering.
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