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I lost my virginity at Hyde.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Oy Vey!
You people are ridiculous!
Two teens walked OFF campus and had sex and then lied about it.
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::troll:: :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :roll:
Anonymous:
excuse me for the informal writing, it's 3:30 in the morning, so bear with me...i'm going to be a senior and it's going to be my 4th year. i have seen good and bad. good from hyde's perspective and good that hyde hasn't recognized. the sterotypical "tool"(what most kids would call the 100% good guys are the ones Hyde will usually praise, yes, and still challenge. i've seen a kid i went to summer challenge with eventually graduate dirty. yes. but I was able to see the IMMENSE positive change he made. he realized to take his life seriously. M.D. was the classic "bad boy" and still looks like the really cool really tough guy. but he's a good kid now. he always was, but he learned some responsibility. for him, that's really all he needed. i've seen "bad" kids come in, refuse; and then refuse a year and a half into it. those kids are a waste of our time, the parents' money. i've seen good kids, such as myself, who've never done anything bad, learn to be less oblivious and also learn that not all of the current youth culture's bad. like, that drinking a little at a party isn't nearly the end of the world. i've gotten a lot out of hyde cuz i put a lot of faith and trust into it. granted, i DID NOT wanna be there during SC '03 and the beginning of freshman year. but i see that hyde is a place to develop yourself, but whatever it needs to be. not necessarily what hyde thinks it should be. whether or not hyde recognizes that you accomplished something doesn't matter. YES THERE ARE FLAWS! but nothing's perfect. i see that there IS a business perspective; hey, someone's gotta pay the bills to keep the place actually open. i worked in the admissions office for three weeks this summer...i noticed we, at least the woodstock campus, has begun to be more selective and not letting people who aren't ready for us in. which is good. i encourage you look at the school, regardless of the stories, it really depends on your kid. maybe he/she needs something more extreme. like elan, or family foundation(although, they may wanna kill themselves after F.F.). or wilderness. or rehab. hyde is a GREAT transition school from one of those, because they are 1) more willing to go to something less strict and 2) if they did the other program right, then they'll be more willing to continue the change they've been making. it's TOTALLY TRUE that hyde's NOT FOR EVERYONE. but you never know till you at least look. but i know that the common thing with teens today is lack of self-confidence, self-worth, or immaturity. usually a good combination. i was all three. what keeps me coming back are the PEOPLE and the staff. so i'm really tired, but PLEASE, if you have any questions, i'll answer them. i see myself as a completely neutral, seeing as i see them all from both sides. My name is Billy Procida...my email address is wprocida@hyde.edu. And good luck with however YOU raise your children. but it's late, and i gotta sleep :)
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""jetpride101"" ---excuse me for the informal writing, it's 3:30 in the morning, so bear with me...i'm going to be a senior and it's going to be my 4th year. i have seen good and bad. good from hyde's perspective and good that hyde hasn't recognized. the sterotypical "tool"(what most kids would call the 100% good guys are the ones Hyde will usually praise, yes, and still challenge. i've seen a kid i went to summer challenge with eventually graduate dirty. yes. but I was able to see the IMMENSE positive change he made. he realized to take his life seriously. M.D. was the classic "bad boy" and still looks like the really cool really tough guy. but he's a good kid now. he always was, but he learned some responsibility. for him, that's really all he needed. i've seen "bad" kids come in, refuse; and then refuse a year and a half into it. those kids are a waste of our time, the parents' money. i've seen good kids, such as myself, who've never done anything bad, learn to be less oblivious and also learn that not all of the current youth culture's bad. like, that drinking a little at a party isn't nearly the end of the world. i've gotten a lot out of hyde cuz i put a lot of faith and trust into it. granted, i DID NOT wanna be there during SC '03 and the beginning of freshman year. but i see that hyde is a place to develop yourself, but whatever it needs to be. not necessarily what hyde thinks it should be. whether or not hyde recognizes that you accomplished something doesn't matter. YES THERE ARE FLAWS! but nothing's perfect. i see that there IS a business perspective; hey, someone's gotta pay the bills to keep the place actually open. i worked in the admissions office for three weeks this summer...i noticed we, at least the woodstock campus, has begun to be more selective and not letting people who aren't ready for us in. which is good. i encourage you look at the school, regardless of the stories, it really depends on your kid. maybe he/she needs something more extreme. like elan, or family foundation(although, they may wanna kill themselves after F.F.). or wilderness. or rehab. hyde is a GREAT transition school from one of those, because they are 1) more willing to go to something less strict and 2) if they did the other program right, then they'll be more willing to continue the change they've been making. it's TOTALLY TRUE that hyde's NOT FOR EVERYONE. but you never know till you at least look. but i know that the common thing with teens today is lack of self-confidence, self-worth, or immaturity. usually a good combination. i was all three. what keeps me coming back are the PEOPLE and the staff. so i'm really tired, but PLEASE, if you have any questions, i'll answer them. i see myself as a completely neutral, seeing as i see them all from both sides. My name is Billy Procida...my email address is wprocida@hyde.edu. And good luck with however YOU raise your children. but it's late, and i gotta sleep :)
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Thanks for your comments. I'm glad to know things have worked out well for you at Hyde. Also, I appreciate your willingness to answer questions about Hyde. Since you were asked to work in the admissions office I imagine you're one of the "on track" kids at Hyde who has invested himself. That's great that Hyde was comfortable having you meet parents and students, show them around, etc.. When I was at Hyde I definitely saw some kids who were like you, but not too many..
I also saw the "other" side of Hyde. I met many students who, in my opinion, never should have gone to Hyde and were often "off track," on 2-4, sent to outpost, ran away, etc.. They had serious psychiatric problems or drug/alc problems, but Hyde took them anyway. I definitely met students there who needed treatment, not Hyde. I could never understand why Hyde acceptd these students when it didn't have anyone on staff to counsel them.
I now get questions from parents who are thinking about Hyde and know I was there. In my honest opinion, the good at Hyde (which you experienced and benefited from) does not outweigh the bad. I tell parents they should look for a school that cares about values, character, and all the good stuff, but that doesn't have Hyde's problems. Hyde tells everyone it's about character education, which is true. Character education the way Hyde does it seems to work for a certain kind of student (you seem to be an example), but it seems to fail with many students because they need something real different from what Hyde offers (usually related to their mental health/drug/alc problems).
I also had a big problem with some of the seminars, which seemed an awful lot like group therapy at times. What bothered me is that it wasn't unusual for people to "break down" in those groups or "lose it," but no one with professional training was there to handle that stuff. I saw some really bad incidents.
Here are my questions for you:
* How many of students were in your entering class (2003)? How many graduated?
* How has Hyde changed its admission standards? You said they're being more selective. How?
* What percentage of Hyde's current students seem to have pretty serious mental health/psychiatric problems? Drug/alc problems? Has that changed since you started at Hyde?
* Did you witness any bad incidents in seminars (FLCs) or was it all good? Did you think the staff had the proper training to handle those groups, especially when things got real intense?
* How much turnover is there with teachers these days? When I was at Hyde the turnover was real high.
* Is Joe Gauld still very involved? What's your experience with him?
Thanks for posting.
Anonymous:
Hi, it's me, the original poster,
I guess I have no real way to identify myself considering I posted originally as a guest. I just want to say that
I don't really think it was rape
or sexual abuse or anything like that; I never said that, and
that wasn't the point in me posting at all.
All I know is my own experience. I was simply sharing my own experience, that did happen at Hyde.
What I'm still a bit upset about is the way that Hyde told me I was a liar,
the way EVERYONE AT HYDE, STAFF included, took it upon themselves to freely humilate me over this incident, calling me disgusting, a liar, etc, every
day for almost a year... That was horrible, regardless of what anyone says or thinks. I remember actually being cornered in the cafeteria by one senior, one of many intense and false "confrontations" over an already emotional and somewhat painful experience, being screamed at to admit that I was lying, for hours...and I remember crying and just being so frustrated because I wasn't lying about it, but the truth wasn't enough. All these incident sheets...sometimes things were just forced out of you; they needed some kind of horrible, dramatic confession even when there was none. That, honestly, is a sick environment, and it is an environment that turned a normally bad teenage experience into a terrible one. I am not trying to say that Hyde is a horrible, evil cult or anything. It isn't a great, awesome perfect and all-knowing place, either...not at all. Things aren't all black and white.
But the fact remains: I never had sex before I came to Hyde, and although it obviously would have happened regardless, I certainly wouldn't have had to deal with the gross aftermath that I dealt with at Hyde, which DID have a lasting, negative effect on me as a woman and as a person.
My father sent me to Hyde with the hopes of me actually growing there, with the hopes of my already shattered self-esteem healing and re-building, not being stomped out almost completely.
....as others have pointed out, Hyde really didn't have the slightest idea how to handle a kid like me...and many others like me, but Hyde grabs us up anyway (Hyde always knows best) and actually hurts us by doing so. Yes, it does "work" for some people, but the key word there is SOME. Helping some kids does not justify hurting countless others.
Anonymous:
Hi, it's me, the original poster,
I guess I have no real way to identify myself considering I posted originally as a guest. I just want to say that
I don't really think it was rape
or sexual abuse or anything like that; I never said that, and
that wasn't the point in me posting at all.
All I know is my own experience. I was simply sharing my own experience, that did happen at Hyde.
What I'm still a bit upset about is the way that Hyde told me I was a liar,
the way EVERYONE AT HYDE, STAFF included, took it upon themselves to freely humiliate me over this incident, calling me disgusting, a liar, etc, every
day for almost a year... That was horrible, regardless of what anyone says or thinks. I remember actually being cornered in the cafeteria by one senior, one of many intense and false "confrontations" over an already emotional and somewhat painful experience, being screamed at to admit that I was lying, for hours...and I remember crying and just being so frustrated because I wasn't lying about it, but the truth wasn't enough. All these incident sheets...sometimes things were just forced out of you; they needed some kind of horrible, dramatic confession even when there was none. That, honestly, is a sick environment, and it is an environment that turned a normally bad teenage experience into a terrible one. I am not trying to say that Hyde is a horrible, evil cult or anything. It isn't a great, awesome perfect and all-knowing place, either...not at all. Things aren't all black and white.
But the fact remains: I never had sex before I came to Hyde, and although it obviously would have happened regardless, I certainly wouldn't have had to deal with the gross aftermath that I dealt with at Hyde, which DID have a lasting, negative effect on me as a woman and as a person.
My father sent me to Hyde with the hopes of me actually growing there, with the hopes of my already shattered self-esteem healing and re-building, not being stomped out almost completely.
....as others have pointed out, Hyde really didn't have the slightest idea how to handle a kid like me...and many others like me, but Hyde grabs us up anyway (Hyde always knows best) and actually hurts us by doing so. Yes, it does "work" for some people, but the key word there is SOME. Helping some kids does not justify hurting countless others.
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