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Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""Charly"" ---Deborah- What were some of the boarding schools they referred to, if you recall. Thanks.
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The two I know my ex considered were
Gould Academy in Bethel, Maine
Vermont Academy in Saxtons River, Vt
There's a list here:
http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/Boardi ... ances.aspx
but I'm not sure they're ALL on the approved list. Some may just be listed simply because a student moved there.
My son was set to enter Vermont Academy when his dad apparently had a revelation and pulled him from HLA two months early. He finished at his old high school.
Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---Well, as far as my daughter goes, time will also tell. She is on a good track and has been for years. The STP would have warn down long ago.....the permanent help is more lasting
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Time will not necessarily tell. Your daughter may never tell you her true feelings, or the intimate details of her experience. My sons have a reasonably good relationship with their father, albeit surface. They know his limitations and don't exceed them. That could change someday if one of them ever feels wronged or violated by him. As long as the money flows and the good times roll, all will probably remain the same. And that will remain a part of the past they just don't revisit.
The effects can be as obvious as depression and/or intense PTSD to unexplained difficulty in intimate relationships to difficulty with authority- from rebellion to being unable to advocate for one's self. And it's quiet likely that the 'victim' doesn't connect the dots between the social difficulties their experiencing and their conditioning in program.
Oz girl:
--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---Well, as far as my daughter goes, time will also tell. She is on a good track and has been for years. The STP would have warn down long ago.....the permanent help is more lasting
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Time will not necessarily tell. Your daughter may never tell you her true feelings, or the intimate details of her experience. My sons have a reasonably good relationship with their father, albeit surface. They know his limitations and don't exceed them. That could change someday if one of them ever feels wronged or violated by him. As long as the money flows and the good times roll, all will probably remain the same. And that will remain a part of the past they just don't revisit.
The effects can be as obvious as depression and/or intense PTSD to unexplained difficulty in intimate relationships to difficulty with authority- from rebellion to being unable to advocate for one's self. And it's quiet likely that the 'victim' doesn't connect the dots between the social difficulties their experiencing and their conditioning in program.
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Great post deborah. One thing that the Who and those of his ilk never seem to get is the idea that if a kid is "On track" this is all that matters. Locking kids up so that they toe the party line eventually robs them of the chance to actually learn anything for themselves.
Charly:
Oz- Toeing the party line is not what most parents hope for when a teen is sent to a program. They WANT the kid to learn about themselves and get at what is motivating the destructive behaviors.
I have a kid who got kicked out of pre-school. He never did toe the party line. That didn't always work so well for him, but he needed to figure out when he could compromise and when he couldn't. He didn't toe it at his program and he didn't always toe it afterwards.
What parents want for their kids is for them to 1. stay alive 2. love and respect THEMSELVES and 3. achieve the happiness and goals they set for themselves.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""Deborah"" ---
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---Well, as far as my daughter goes, time will also tell. She is on a good track and has been for years. The STP would have warn down long ago.....the permanent help is more lasting
--- End quote ---
Time will not necessarily tell. Your daughter may never tell you her true feelings, or the intimate details of her experience. My sons have a reasonably good relationship with their father, albeit surface. They know his limitations and don't exceed them. That could change someday if one of them ever feels wronged or violated by him. As long as the money flows and the good times roll, all will probably remain the same. And that will remain a part of the past they just don't revisit.
The effects can be as obvious as depression and/or intense PTSD to unexplained difficulty in intimate relationships to difficulty with authority- from rebellion to being unable to advocate for one's self. And it's quiet likely that the 'victim' doesn't connect the dots between the social difficulties their experiencing and their conditioning in program.
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True, but how are any of us ever going to know. The same effect could take place by tough displine at home, drawing a hard line. The kids feel wronged or their rights violated and never see you in the same way again or afraid to challenge the rules because they dont want to be grounded again. This effect doesnt have to be limited to a TBS stay.....
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