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Anonymous:
I have wondered why people are so suspicous about parent stories.
Maybe it is because it is so easy to make one story up.
Here is a fake one in progress:http://http://www.asstr.org/files/Authors/JensenDenmark/mothersconcern.txt
But we also need to understand that there is no reality we all can agree on. I see the world in a different way than the person next to me.
As I can understand, JustaMon did something which is out of order, when it comes to the normal inmates at ASR. She drove her son up there herself. That speaks for some degree of commitment from her son. Commitment is the real factor when we are talking of whether it is OK for not for the child to be locked up.
If a 16 year old boy or girl want to lock themselves up in a monastery in order to serve god, would that be OK?
If they feel afraid of the surrunding world and wants to lock themselves up in a TBS, would that be OK?
Properly yes in both answers.
But they have to ask for it themselves! They should be allowed a trial stay for 2 week - fully paid of course. If they want to leave at the end of the 2 weeks - they should.
But what if the child is sick? I have suggestion. Change the laws so a court has to judge in every case. Let the court and the local school district be the deciding factor when it comes to treatment or the need to be locked up. Waste of tax-payers money would soon come to an end. Only facilities with a certain amount to quality would survive.
To the parents: I am fully assured of the fact that you love your children and you think that you took action in their favour. No one is questioned that, but in all other aspect of our society it is the court, not private interests, which decide who belong behind bars and not.
Some degree of protection of the childs rights is missing when a child in locked up at a TBS.
Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---Well, that?s a good point, I can see how that would not be clear. Not all the kids are at the same maturity level at ASR. By mature environment I am talking about the structure they receive, the responsibilities they are given and expected to do. Living in a world with consequences. Modeling after counselors and more mature peers in their group. Learning and receiving tools to assist in a mature approach to daily challenges and conflict resolution etc.
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Structure, responsibilities, consequences, appropriate modeling, learning tools, conflict resolution.
That's parenting. And doesn't require residential 'treatment'.
Where's the breakdown? What prevented you, as a parent, from providing these things at home?
--- Quote ---If you are attending a calculus class and everyone in the class is there for the first time and knows nothing about calculus it isn?t a recipe for failure.
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It damn well may be if they're all "immature" and/or lack an aptitude for math. They may learn more about the 'evils' of the world, than calculus.
--- Quote ---As far as the specific changes to transition go, I do not have the details. I believe there was a person who had a child who graduated recently and we can get the question to her
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Who is this "We", that ocassionally slips out in your communications? You work with a team?
TheWho:
--- Quote ---Structure, responsibilities, consequences, appropriate modeling, learning tools, conflict resolution.
That's parenting. And doesn't require residential 'treatment'.
Where's the breakdown? What prevented you, as a parent, from providing these things at home?
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No it doesn?t in most cases I agree. A family can have several children and they all do fine except one which gets off track for some reason, the cause could be multiple reasons, conflict, in with a bad crowd, present environment isnt working for that child for some reason, etc.
Its like changing a light bulb. It comes naturally to almost everyone, you untwist it and replace it. But every once in awhile a bulb will get stuck and will break off while you are trying to remove it and may require a special tool to remove it and in some rare occasions you may have to have an electrician repair/replace the fixture. Doesn?t mean the home owner isn?t doing their job and it isn?t the light bulbs fault either, it just means every situation is different and some require more work than others.
The other option is to just ignore it and live in the dark and hope it repairs itself someday?. But this isn?t a healthy choice for anyone.
TheWho:
--- Quote from: ""TS Waygookin"" ---WHO!
That metaphor sucks worse than the half baked pizza one on the TB video. I demand you come up with another one. One that doesn't compare kids to a lightbulb, fence post, aborted fetus, or half baked pizza.
Do it now or I replace the new GIF sig that I installed in your honor with something really revolting.
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No....No, please anything but that!!! I will try to come up with something
TheWho:
Okay try this one:
Its like being a caretaker in charge of a family of limo?s for a limo service. You keep them in good repair, when new models come out you get educated on the latest techniques to keep them in good running order, change the breaks when needed, tires, change the oil, clean the screens in the transmission, align the front end each month. But one day the 2002 Mercedes stretch develops an engine noise and you get right to work, order the Chiltons manual do some online research, maybe adjust the valves, but all to no avail. So you call up some local people to come look at it and they work on it for a few weeks and finally a consensus of professions agree that the car needs to be sent out for repair. This makes the man sad and it will affect the synergy of the entire fleet to have the Mercedes stretch 2002 gone from home, but it is for the best decision for everyone involved. Another option would be to replace all the oil in her crankcase with STP and the sound will go away, but research has shown that although this is correct it is only a short term fix and will only serve to mask the problem and postpone the inevitable and probably makes things worse.
So this decision to send the car off doesn?t mean the stretch limo caretaker doesn?t care enough about Mercedes stretch 2002 to keep her home, he knows the sacrifice will affect everyone and in the end she will become a happy member of the fleet again.
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