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TheWho:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---The Who, tell us about "the good life" your daughter attained from being locked up at ASR, again.  "The good life" that included her running away, not speaking to you for 2 years, and being unable to communicate with her own peers after her little stay at ASR.  And none of that "she just matured so much at ASR, she had nothing in common with her friends any longer."  Some people retain friendships over a life-time---DID YOU KNOW THAT?  And only very very dysfunctional families have a daughter who does not speak to a parent for YEARS.  DID YOU KNOW THAT?
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When she first got home she had a difficult time adjusting.  She went back to her old friends for a few weeks and found that she had outgrown them (matured) and eventually found a more mature and healthier group to hang out with.  She didn?t move away and our relationship has been great.
Some of my feed back to ASR was the transition back home and I heard from other parents that ASR has addressed the issue and transitions are much smoother now.

I think one thing you are missing here is many of the kids which enter ASR are very immature for their age and the maturation process can be accelerated if the child is placed in a mature and safe environment where they can thrive and grow.

Take any of the kids that join, say a group sport at school.  Within no time they mature very quickly in ways like having respect for others, themselves, organizing and being responsible for their own equipment, getting to practice on time, healthier friendships etc.

Many of you focus too much on the bumps in the road and not the destination.  Is it a tough road, yes, no question about it!!  But many of the kids thrive and do so well when they get home.

Programmie-Trans 9000:

--- Quote ---When she first got home she had a difficult time adjusting.  She went back to her old friends for a few weeks and found that they had outgrown her (she had regressed) and she eventually found a less mature and more diseased group to hang out with. She ran like hell and our relationship was even worse than it started.
Some of my feed back to ASR was the transition back home and I heard from other parents that ASR has addressed the issue and transitions are much more humiliating now.

I think one thing you are missing here is many of the kids which enter ASR are too mature for their parents to handle and the maturation process can be reversed if the child is placed in a capricious and unsafe environment where they can be forcibly infantilized.

Take any of the kids that join, say a group sport at school.  Within no time they mature very quickly in ways like having respect for others, themselves, organizing and being responsible for their own equipment, getting to practice on time, healthier friendships etc. Now take the conceptual reverse. That's ASR.

Many of you focus too much on the bumps in the road and not the destination. Is it a tough road, yes, no question about it!! But many of the kids are reduced to whimpering shadows of their former selves when they get home, and that's exactly what we hoped to accomplish.
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Deborah:

--- Quote from: ""TheWho"" ---Some of my feed back to ASR was the transition back home and I heard from other parents that ASR has addressed the issue and transitions are much smoother now.
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What did that entail?


--- Quote ---I think one thing you are missing here is many of the kids which enter ASR are very immature for their age and the maturation process can be accelerated if the child is placed in a mature and safe environment where they can thrive and grow.
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What's a mature environment? Being warehoused with other kids who are "immature for their age"? You contradict yourself. Aggregation of distressed (immature?) kids is not recommended.

TheWho:
Well, that?s a good point, I can see how that would not be clear.  Not all the kids are at the same maturity level at ASR.  By mature environment I am talking about the structure they receive, the responsibilities they are given and expected to do.  Living in a world with consequences.  Modeling after counselors and more mature peers in their group.  Learning and receiving tools to assist in a mature approach to daily challenges and conflict resolution etc.
If you are attending a calculus class and everyone in the class is there for the first time and knows nothing about calculus it isn?t a recipe for failure.

As far as the specific changes to transition go, I do not have the details.  I believe there was a person who had a child who graduated recently and we can get the question to her

Programmie-Trans 9000:

--- Quote ---Well, that?s a good point, but I can't see it at all. Not all the kids start out equally victimized at ASR.  By regressive environment I am talking about the reaming they receive, the indignities they are given and expected to receive quietly. Living in a world with random 'consequences' enforced by unpredictable staff.  Modeling after professional sadists and more regressed peers in their group. Learning and receiving tools to assist in a twisted approach to daily humiliation and snitching on their peers in group etc.
If you are attending a mindrape session and everyone in the session is there for the first time and has never had this happen to them before it isn?t a recipe for failure.

As far as the specific changes to transition go, I do not have the details.  I believe there was a blatantly obvious marketer who pretended to have a child who graduated recently and we can get the question to her
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