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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2006, 11:06:00 AM »
:grin:  :grin:


Better copy it before it gets taken down....


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Which do you trust more for residential programs for at-risk teens?
A. State run programs  2 (1%)
 
 
B. Private state funded programs  1 (1%)
 
 
C. Private parent choice programs  41 (24%)
 
 
D. There should not be any residential programs for these students  124 (72%)
 
 
E. Unsure  5 (3%)
 
 

Total Votes: 173
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2006, 02:08:00 PM »
LOL- that's the funniest sh-t I've seen in quite some time!!!  ah ha ha ha ha!  I think we all should just invade struggling teens- take these monthly polls and make our point on their forums- politely, of course... so as not to get the boot. WE have the stronger arguement

http://www.strugglingteens.org/cgi-bin/ ... 222#000015

http://www.strugglingteens.org/cgi-bin/ ... forum;f=12
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2006, 11:23:00 PM »
Which do you trust more for residential programs for at-risk teens?
A. State run programs    2 (1%)
   
B. Private state funded programs    1 (1%)
   
C. Private parent choice programs    48 (25%)
   
D. There should not be any residential programs for these students    135 (71%)
   
E. Unsure    5 (3%)
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2006, 03:00:00 AM »
:smile:  :razz:  :lol:
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2006, 08:43:00 AM »
Now thats delightfully funny.
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2006, 12:49:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-23 11:08:00, katfish wrote:

"LOL- that's the funniest sh-t I've seen in quite some time!!!  ah ha ha ha ha!  I think we all should just invade struggling teens- take these monthly polls and make our point on their forums- politely, of course... so as not to get the boot. WE have the stronger arguement



http://www.strugglingteens.org/cgi-bin/ ... 222#000015



http://www.strugglingteens.org/cgi-bin/ ... forum;f=12"


Uh, no. Forum invasions get nothing done except inflame people and piss them off. Plus, you cant invade a closed forum that lon or another admin has to sign off on personally.

Also, giving them recourse to start *MORE* ad hominem attacks and basically resort to emotional appeals or attacks on the poster doesnt make you win, it makes them close up and not listen to anything except what they want to hear.

Going down BELOW the level of the person youre debating doesnt get very far.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2006, 12:54:00 PM »
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2006, 12:55:00 PM »

I wonder how long it will take them to try to get this removed from the internet  :roll:
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »
Why would someone want to remove the results from being viewed?
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2006, 02:16:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-24 11:13:00, TheWho wrote:

"Why would someone want to remove the results from being viewed?"


Come on Who, you're smarter than that.  Why do you think? :roll:
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2006, 02:55:00 PM »
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Which do you trust more for residential programs for at-risk teens?
A. State run programs 2 (1%)

B. Private state funded programs 1 (1%)

C. Private parent choice programs 48 (25%)

D. There should not be any residential programs for these students 135 (71%)

E. Unsure 5 (3%)


Just a first cut at looking at the results.

I am not familiar with the people doing the survey, but I think the results are interesting and tell a little about the industry, what we don?t know is how the survey population is broken out (parents of kids, kids, at-risk kids, interested third parties)

Assume your survey population was ?All Parents of at-risk teens?

I see the results as saying:

 71% or more of the parents feel they should work their kids issues at home and are willing to do so.
25% of the parents either tried unsuccessfully (originally part of the 71% previously) to work the problems at home or felt they could not be successful and did not attempt initially and chose a private out placement for their child as they saw their attempts not working(i.e. local therapist, counseling, personal/ family, lifestyle changes).
 Only 2% were willing to trust the state and their regulations/ oversight (or lack there of) or their children.  I believe this is the most interesting result, no trust in oversight at all.

Assume your survey population was ?Not parents of at risk teens?

I see the results as saying:

25% of the at risk teens would trust their parents to chose a residential program

71%  would not want to go at all.


Assume your survey population was ?A mix of parents and teens?

I see the results as saying:

Greater than 25% of the respondents see a benefit of a residential treatment plan of some type.  Which I see as high.  Every parent I have spoken to attempted to solve the issues at home or locally, so over 25% of the respondents have passed this point and are actively looking for outside help.  I would have guessed this to be down around 15%.

If this was a controlled study it would be interesting to see how many parents in the (71%) group would be successful working the issues at home and how many moved on to consider placement after their attempt failed in follow-up surveys.

How do others see this?
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2006, 02:59:00 PM »
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How do others see this?

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As intended propoganda set up by a referral service.  I'm quite sure they intended for mainly program parents to respond.  Usually the MO over there is to delete anything that doesn't jibe with their belief that programs save kids.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2006, 04:00:00 PM »
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Come on Who, you're smarter than that.


No he isn't.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2006, 04:02:00 PM »
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Come on Who, you're smarter than that.




No he isn't."


Yes he is, he's just got blinders on.  I have hope that he may be one of those who wakes up from dreamland someday.
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