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Anonymous:
Doesn't it take someone QUALIFIED to do a "clinical intervention"? Then why do the minimum wage staff, who'd otherwise be at McDonald's, get to decide who to chuck into isolation and for how long. If only all of these rich parents knew about the low-wage trash banishing their kids from view of others. Yeah, I'd sure feel empowered if an ignorant hick threw me in a hallway sized room for a few days, weeks or months.
Anonymous:
"By staying relatively calm for half an hour, the student shows a willingness to act in a safe manner, and heads back to wherever he was before that."
No, they show you that you're the ones in charge for the time being and totally submit to your will, which is what you want when you send them there. This means that any child who continues to stick up for him/herself will not be allowed out of confinement. That is not empowerment, it is abuse. It doesn't matter how many horses and beaches you put on the brochure, it's still bullshit.
"The exception? Some kids want to stay and relax; that's OK. Some also go there at their own request, for a time-out."
Huh? I spent three years there and never saw anyone want to go in there. Again, bullshit. Like saying an abused wife was asking for it.
CCM girl 1989:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-20 08:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Bad puppy, someone rubbed your nose in too much poo, I think.
"Did they also end the practice of emotionally disturbed kids giving consequences to other emotionally disturbed kids?"
Why do you assume the kids at the school are all emotionally disturbed? And do you understand that a "consequence" is just losing points? Do you know about the body of research that fully supports A. increasing privileges and responsibility in increments proportional to quality of performance and B. peer tutoring?
"Do you deny that mail to parents are censored?"
Absolutely. What you're confused about here is the level of parent/family involvement. Letters to and from parents are completely private. The only exception is if the PARENT sends a copy to the therapist or family rep.
"Do you deny that education is self paced which is another way of saying no classroom teaching?"
Again, absolutely. Self-paced is your term, and refers only to the speed with which a student completes something. Self-guided describes an individual plan for every child, something private schools have been striving to create for about twenty years. The student gets to run the show, and that's as it should be. Your assumption here seems to be that the teacher is not available. This has no relation to reality.
"Do you deny that isolation is used for punishment?"
Isolation is not used. Period. It is "intervention"--by clinical definition a completely different animal.
"That purple room looks mighty small and uncomfortable for a three day or longer stint."
Intervention looks like this: a student who is escalated goes to the intervention room, accompanied by staff. They can choose to stay escalated, but most are happy to try other available means of handling things: have a therapist come over and talk, have a staff they feel confortable with come over and talk, have an upper status student (one or a few) come over and talk. If they just don't want to talk, that's OK too.
By staying relatively calm for half an hour, the student shows a willingness to act in a safe manner, and heads back to wherever he was before that. The exception? Some kids want to stay and relax; that's OK. Some also go there at their own request, for a time-out.
Bottom line? It's up to the student, every step of the way. That isn't isolating, it's empowering.
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I know exactly who this is! ANYWAY!!!! Okay let's break it down......yes a consequence is basically losing points............but, when you work so hard to make levels and some inmate is wanting revenge on you for whatever reason........and they have the power to make your life a hell, and take away what little priveleges you've been working so hard to acheive, well, it's devistating!!! You'll never know this until you've been through it.
As far as the censorship of mail goes......you were not allowed to communicate with friends. When you wrote letters to your parents telling them what was really happening there........they were terrified, and contacted your therapist......he then maybe asked for copies? Then you are confronted with the fact of you trying to manipulate, therefore receiving some sort of punishment.
Self-paced versus self-guided? Whatever, puhleese do I even need to go there? A 2 year old can figure that one out!!!!
As far as requesting confinement....or time outs? Um..........don't know? I never once requested such a thing.........nor did anyone I know of. I would go there kicking and screaming, Nooooooooooooo!
Do not try to get me into your line of thinking. I am not buying this whatsover, and nobody else is for that matter.
MightyAardvark:
CCM girl, would you mind talking to me about your time at Cross Creek?
Badpuppy:
CM Girl since you have an idea who responded to my questions does this person actually have a degree? Does he understand that he admitted the reliance on underage troubled youth to run a reform school? I'd hope somebody with a graduate degree would realize this is grossly inapropriate and a practice unaccptable by any mental health organization in the United States. I have a feeling he wants to run a far away from this as he can but I will give him a chance to respond before going into the issues of education fraud, and his asinine defense of a lack of meaningful pedagogy as well as absurdity of thinking that ANYONE would feel empowered as a result of coercion imposed by a four foot wide coffin.
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