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« on: March 31, 2006, 08:12:00 PM »


Girl with americans flag being smacked around by mexican flag wavers.





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I saw school kids today around here marching, they are pretty ignorant. Invoking Cesar Chavez name, while he was  actually anti-illegal immigrant. He was born in the US and fought for farm workers rights for american workers and legal immigrants. He knew the unimpeded importation of cheap corporate slave labor would devestate the poor families of America. The govt. is doing nothing because they are all funded by big business.
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2006, 08:14:00 PM »
Take a look at the group who orgnized the HelLA protest

http://www.mexica-movement.org/granmarcha.htm
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006, 10:47:00 PM »
The theory that the U.S. Southwest really "belongs" to Mexico is historically inaccurate.

The land belongs to native Americans. In the central coastal areas of California, the Chumash owned and occupied all of the land. Their ancestors can be traced back 10,000 years. They had villages spread up and down the coast, had their own culture, art (their cave paintings still survive), and languages.

In the 1760s Spain (through its conquest of Mexico) decided that all native Americans should be rounded up, baptized as Catholics, their culture destroyed. This led to the mission system created up the coast in California and, in turn, led to the deaths of thousands of native Americans and destruction of their communities and culture.

Mexico got its independence from Spain in 1820. Instead of giving the California land back to the people who owned it -- the Chumash-- Mexico gave it to Mexicans in what were called Mexican Land Grants. So Mexico's claim to the land was illegitimate - the land was taken by force by Spain, then grabbed by Mexico for the few years after its own independence and before the Mexican-American war.

The Mexican-American War (about 1846-50) led to U.S. "yankees" taking the land of California. Treaties were signed by the U.S. to respect and honor the Mexican land grants, but that did not happen. Instead, laws were passed saying the Mexicans had to "prove" their ownership - and the local recorders offices which had the vital land records were burned down by the yankees. Then the yankees bought the land up in secret auctions.

It's a little annoying to hear Mexicans claim that the land really belongs to them, because their claim is derivitive only of the genocide committed by Spain and the Catholic Church. Mexico "owned" this land for about 30 years, at most.

And of course Mexicans don't come here because they need land. They have land - plenty of it. They just do not have jobs.

I also do not buy the argument that immigrants only take jobs that no one else wants. Anyone who lives in California can drive by construction sites all over this state and see the number of jobs now held by Mexican day laborers who, in turn, will eventually become the carpenters and tradesmen on the jobs. These were previously good-paying American jobs. The "savings" is not passed on to consumers. It is taken by developers, contractors, lenders, and real estate brokers.

In fact, part of the radical increase in the cost of houses in California is the result of unrestricted immigration. Speculators buy up small houses in old (but decent)neighborhoods, then pack them with as many as 20 day laborers who pay $500/month each to sleep on a mattress on the floor. This causes the property values to fall, leads to an increase in crime, and forces other people to move -to more expensive areas. You cannot bring in an extra 11 million people in 10 years and not have it drive up the cost of housing: more people chasing fewer units.

For example, it is not uncommon for two Mexican families to go together to buy one home, because that's the only way they can afford it. Fine for them, but it still has the effect of driving up prices. We now have fairly shabby old 3-bedroom homes in bad neighborhoods selling for over $500,000. And wages have not in any way kept up with the increased prices.

It is absurd to say a massive influx of new people into an area does not negatively affect the residents. Schools are overcrowded and now being required to teach in two languages. Police are understaffed and faced with more crime - including gang crime and violence that is fueled by gang vendettas and loyalties originating in the drug trade south of the border. The sanitation systems are overused - including water and sewage. There is more pollution from more cars. Emergency rooms are grossly overcrowded (12 hour waits are common) while also going broke (and shutting down) because illegal immigrants use emergency rooms as their primary care - because they cannot afford to pay a regular doctor, and the emergency rooms are legally prohibited from refusing to see patients who cannot pay.

Just ask this: whatever your living circumstances, if you were told that 5 people were going to move in with you, most of whom have no skills, no education, and do not speak your language - wouldn't you object?

Immigration is a national issue. The federal government to whom we pay much in taxes is supposed to come up with the number of people who can come in each year. Those people are supposed to fill out forms, stand in line, be investigated, etc. Ignoring the rules and laws is creating chaos. Something radical must happen to stop this.

- NABNYC, 03.31.2006
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2006, 02:08:00 PM »
Fuck these ingrate mexicans. If they love mexico and hate the US so much why are they all runnin g here like roaches.
 DId noone tell them they lost the war?All we need to do is cut their welfare off and they will all starve to death.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2006, 09:47:00 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html

Smugglers welcome tighter borders
More fences, more patrols mean more business

Wednesday, April 5, 2006; Posted: 8:24 p.m. EDT (00:24 GMT)


DOLORES HIDALGO, Mexico (AP) -- Barely 18, Jose belongs to Mexico's new generation of migrant smugglers -- young, savvy and happy to see Uncle Sam further tighten border security.

Why? It's good for business, he says.

Jose figures more migrants will seek his help if the U.S. Senate approves legislation to double the Border Patrol and put up a virtual wall of unmanned vehicles, cameras and sensors to monitor the 2,000-mile border with Mexico.

Cases are coming to light of smugglers making $1 million or more. And Jose reckons the earnings will rise yet higher if new obstacles go up.

"This is never going to end," he said. "The United States cannot work without Mexicans."

Jose is a lanky, baby-faced teen in a baseball cap who says he started smuggling people late last year and made $16,000 in his first three months. His mother worries but needs the money -- Jose was making $53 a week cutting lettuce.

Talking to a reporter outside their humble, adobe house near Dolores Hidalgo in central Mexico, Jose and his mother asked to withhold their surname for fear of arrest.

"We're always going to look for a way to get in, and there's always a way," Jose said. "This is a business for everyone." (Watch how one family fought to become Americans -- 2:30)

Not so, says John Cornyn, the Texas Republican who chairs the Senate's Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship subcommittee. The way to hurt smugglers' business is by "securing our borders and working cooperatively with other nations on enforcement," along with providing a temporary worker program, he said in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press.

The Senate is debating a series of immigration bills. Some simply bolster border enforcement and crack down on employers. Others offer a temporary worker program and possible legalization of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States. The House version would impose criminal penalties and build 700 miles of border fence.

Victor Clark, a Mexican border expert in Tijuana who has studied smugglers' patterns for decades, agrees with Jose. "This is going to have the opposite effect of what the U.S. government wants, since the demand for migrant smugglers is going to go up," he said.

The smuggling business flourished after the U.S. Border Patrol cracked down on the busiest crossings into Texas and California in 1994.

Migrants were funneled into the remote Arizona desert, and domestic flights into Hermosillo, Sonora, the biggest Mexican city near the Arizona border, jumped from 20 a week in 1994 to nearly 500 today. The airport's baggage claim area is often nearly empty because migrants arrive with little more than a duffel bag for the rest of their journey.

Many risk death walking for 30 hours in 100-degree temperatures through remote desert terrain. The smuggler leading them may well be linked to organized crime, though Jose says he isn't.

That too is a change from the days when it was considered something of a community service in Mexican villages, and older, trusted men would show relatives and neighbors the safest routes.

Now a growing number of smugglers are like Jose -- in it just for the money.

"The new generation of migrant smugglers are youths who see their clients as merchandise," Clark said. "Many of them abandon the migrants in the desert or give them drugs, or tell migrants they know the way when they don't, and they end up dying along with the migrants. Others have turned to violence to steal clients from other smugglers."

Smuggling people into the United States from around the world has become a $10 billion-a-year business, rivaling drug profits, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials who started tracking smuggler profits three years ago. (Watch and decide whether Mexico embraces a double standard when it comes to border security -- 2:19)

A Texas-based smuggler who was sentenced to nine years in federal prison in December earned nearly $1 million driving about 6,000 illegal Latin American migrants to work in Chinese restaurants throughout the upper Midwest.

In January, ICE investigators arrested two Texas families who allegedly earned $1.6 million in two years by hiring a fleet of trucks near the border city of El Paso, Texas, to transport migrants across the United States.

"One truck driver, all he did was transport aliens," said Dan Page, acting special agent in charge for ICE in El Paso.

In the central Mexican ranching town of San Diego, migrants board smugglers' trucks and vans nearly every Sunday to head for the border.

"The smugglers around here have the biggest houses," said resident Guillermo Melchor, who said he paid $1,300 to get to Houston, Texas, through a trafficking network.

He made it, but said his 23-year-old friend, crossing separately, died of a heart attack after taking a stimulant from a smuggler to endure the long desert walk.

Jose charges $1,200 per person, sharing his earnings with a driver who waits on a highway outside Laredo, Texas, to pick up the migrants, and another man who provides a Houston safehouse for new arrivals.

He said he made his first $16,000 smuggling 40 people in four journeys from the cactus-studded state of Guanajuato by bus to the border, then across the Rio Grande to meet the driver.

They usually wade across at night, then walk for two hours through the scrubby south Texas desert, with the lights of Laredo in view. Jose's rules are simple: Keep alert. No talking. No smoking. If you see a light flash or hear a noise, it could be the border patrol. If you see someone, run like crazy.

Jose says he treats his migrants well and even helps those he finds abandoned in the desert -- for a price, of course.

After all, he said, "It's business."
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2006, 11:44:00 AM »
Sounds like they should of stayed in mexico.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2006, 01:23:00 AM »
In the town of Herndon, Va, about 30 miles outside DC, there was this townhouse.  Well, a neighborhood of townhouses.  

Anyway, this house was packed with illegal immigrants.  It was a rental home, and there should have only been 4 or 5 people living there.  

Guess how they got caught?  Because of the sewage.  Apparantely the sewage got backed up or exploded or whatever happens when you've got 50 people shitting in a facility designed for 4 people.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2006, 01:36:00 AM »
I just wish we could get rid of all of those scum-sucking, freeloading, Canadians.

Yes, that's right, I'm talking to you, you fucking back-bacon-eating, curling-playing, flat-vowel-speaking freaks. Go back where you fucking came from.

Goddamn maple-leaf shitbags.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2006, 01:49:00 AM »
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2006, 03:41:00 PM »
This is not a game . . .

NEWS CONFERENCE
Sunday, April 9, 2006
12:00 p.m.
Our Lady of Guadalupe Church
710 S. Sultana Ave., Ontario, CA 91761

Actor Edward James Olmos and Movie Producer Moctezuma Esparza HBO?s ?East L.A Walkouts,??Selena,??Milagro Beanfield War?) will be among the many community members who will join Louise Corales, the mother of Anthony Soltero, age 14, in a prayer for her son this Sunday, following the 11:00 a.m. mass at Our Lady of Guadalupe Church in Ontario, California. Ms. Corales will speak to the press and the community at 12:00 noon, after the 11 o?clock mass on Sunday, April 9, 2006.

Eighth grader Anthony Soltero shot himself through the head on Thursday, March 30, after the assistant principal at De Anza Middle School told him that he was going to prison for three years because of his involvement as an organizer of the April 28 school walk-outs to protest the anti-immigrant legislation in Washington. The vice principal also forbade Anthony from attending graduation activities and threatened to fine his mother for Anthony?s truancy and participation in the student protests.

?Anthony was learning about the importance of civic duties and rights in his eighth grade class. Ironically, he died because the vice principal at his school threatened him for speaking out and exercising those rights,? Ms. Corales said today. ?I want to speak out to other parents, whose children are attending the continuing protests this week. We have to let the schools know that they can?t punish our children for exercising their rights.?

Anthony?s death is likely the first fatality arising from the protests against the immigration legislation being considered in Washington, D.C. Anthony, who was a very good student at De Anza Middle School in the Ontario-Montclair School District, believed in justice and was passionate about the immigration issue. He is survived by his mother, Louise Corales, his father, a younger sister, and a baby brother.

Anthony?s funeral and burial are scheduled for Monday, April 10, 2006, at 9:30 a.m., STRICKLAND & SNIVERY, 1953 Long Beach Boulevard, Long Beach, CA 90806.

CONTACTS: R. SAMUEL PAZ, Weekend (310) 989-6815; Office (310) 410-2981 SONIA MERCADO, weekend (310 210-4445; Office (310) 410-2981
E-mail: http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/04/153084.php
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