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Hyde School Woodstock Headmaster Leaving???
Anonymous:
"Sorry it did not work for yours, but like they say in AA it doesn't work unless YOU work it."
EXACTLY!! Hyde works like AA. This is fine, but advertise it for what it is, a program, not a school
Anonymous:
It's interesting that you find, humiliating someone in public acceptable behavior from a school that advertises itself as Character Building.
Listen, I can't speak for the other guy posting, but I certainly am not a baby and have tolerated much worse in my life than Hyde, but Hyde's ways are very Cult Like and can be destructive to kids who have serious problems. In my case it didn't screw me up, but I did see where some families were emotionally hurt by Hyde. I will never forget the day when a Facilitator pushed a woman over the edge to the point where I understand she had a breakdown. This womans care needed to be in the hands of a professional, not some Hyde graduate trying to act like a psychologist.
I do understand some of what you are saying in regards to people needing to toughen up, but I also understand why some former parents and students are bitter about Hyde. They do go over the top as far as I am concerned. What stands out the most to me is their false advertising about what they stand for and what a Hyde education is.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-01 10:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
"It's interesting that you find, humiliating someone in public acceptable behavior from a school that advertises itself as Character Building.
Listen, I can't speak for the other guy posting, but I certainly am not a baby and have tolerated much worse in my life than Hyde, but Hyde's ways are very Cult Like and can be destructive to kids who have serious problems. In my case it didn't screw me up, but I did see where some families were emotionally hurt by Hyde. I will never forget the day when a Facilitator pushed a woman over the edge to the point where I understand she had a breakdown. This womans care needed to be in the hands of a professional, not some Hyde graduate trying to act like a psychologist.
I do understand some of what you are saying in regards to people needing to toughen up, but I also understand why some former parents and students are bitter about Hyde. They do go over the top as far as I am concerned. What stands out the most to me is their false advertising about what they stand for and what a Hyde education is."
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I'm with you on this one. Maybe it's true that some people at Hyde need to toughen up. What I can't accept are the many times I've seen people who work at Hyde humiliate other people in the name of "character education." Don't they realize that this sort of behavior is a bizarre interpretation of "character"? Does it make any sense at all to shame and humiliate people as a standard part of the Hyde model (I've seen it happen many times in seminars, hallway encounters, FLCs, etc.) and call this "character education"?
I believe in character education. I don't believe that Hyde knows how to do it with integrity, honesty, and humility, despite its advertisements. Maybe some of you have experienced a different Hyde than I have. If that's so, you should wear your shoe and I'll wear mine. If my shoe doesn't fit your foot, don't wear it, okay?
Anonymous:
Very well said. When you speak of shame and humiliation I think back to my childhood and the couple of things that took hold and effected me the rest of my life. I am not a psychologist, but I know it is not good to feel such shame and humiliation especially in front of an audience. It reminds me of a movie I saw portraying Jim Jones and his followers.
I think Hyde could be a good program if it were run by outsiders who are not related to the Gaulds and who would start out fresh rather than having the effects of living at Hyde all of their lives as many of their leaders have. In fact we need more schools with good character education, but not in the way Hyde does it and not operated by administrators who have serious emotional afflictions themselves. If Hyde wants to run this like a treatment program, then let them say this, and let them hire professional counselors, but if they are going to continue to operate as "Character Education" then they have a lot to learn in order to be effective.
PLEASE parents, do your homework, talk to former parents and students who are NOT listed on Hyde's recommendation sheet before you enroll your child there. If you simply want to dump your kid off at a place that will have structure, very poor education and completely dysfunctional people raising your child, then Hyde is the place for you!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-01 13:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Very well said. When you speak of shame and humiliation I think back to my childhood and the couple of things that took hold and effected me the rest of my life. I am not a psychologist, but I know it is not good to feel such shame and humiliation especially in front of an audience. It reminds me of a movie I saw portraying Jim Jones and his followers.
I think Hyde could be a good program if it were run by outsiders who are not related to the Gaulds and who would start out fresh rather than having the effects of living at Hyde all of their lives as many of their leaders have. In fact we need more schools with good character education, but not in the way Hyde does it and not operated by administrators who have serious emotional afflictions themselves. If Hyde wants to run this like a treatment program, then let them say this, and let them hire professional counselors, but if they are going to continue to operate as "Character Education" then they have a lot to learn in order to be effective.
PLEASE parents, do your homework, talk to former parents and students who are NOT listed on Hyde's recommendation sheet before you enroll your child there. If you simply want to dump your kid off at a place that will have structure, very poor education and completely dysfunctional people raising your child, then Hyde is the place for you! "
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It is much better to live in a funk than be shocked out of it. The fact is that Hyde will not let you just drop your kid off. The parents must be involved in the process. If you want to be guided by the dysfunctional liten to the folk(s) posting hear telling you that hyde is bad.
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