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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" --- I seem to recall, perhaps incorrectly, Joe Gauld making reference to just such a phrase in school meeting:  "...break them down and then build them up..." (in discussing "character" development).
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Yeah, most of these places work on basically the same principle.  It began a few decades back with Synanon, then the Seed and Straight.  Now it continues in places like Hyde, Carlbrook, HIdden Lake Academy (although it's on it's last legs thanks in no small part to a few dedicated people here and pissed off parents), CEDU (although some have closed, others opened under new names).  The whole industry is pretty sick.

Anonymous:
I came to Hyde thirty years ago fresh out of a situation of severe child abuse and neglect. I did not know that at the time, and so I never raised the issue at Hyde. (Needless to say, neither did my parents.) That may sound silly, not knowing I was abused: arbitrary violence, punishment, and humiliation are straightforward. But the fact is I was unable to recognize the abuse I had been steeped in until I was completely free of my home environment. Marriage and involvement with other families may have given me the necessary perspective.

My point is: for whatever reason, I could not recognize my trauma, and so it was not dealt with. In all fairness, Hyde staff were not professionally trained to recognize symptoms of child abuse and thus enabled to bring me to my current level of awareness. I regret that I did not undergo proper therapy together with my parents during the years I was away at Hyde. It might have spared me the subsequent decline not only in my mental health but also in my relations with my parents.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I came to Hyde thirty years ago fresh out of a situation of severe child abuse and neglect. I did not know that at the time, and so I never raised the issue at Hyde. (Needless to say, neither did my parents.) That may sound silly, not knowing I was abused: arbitrary violence, punishment, and humiliation are straightforward. But the fact is I was unable to recognize the abuse I had been steeped in until I was completely free of my home environment. Marriage and involvement with other families may have given me the necessary perspective.

My point is: for whatever reason, I could not recognize my trauma, and so it was not dealt with. In all fairness, Hyde staff were not professionally trained to recognize symptoms of child abuse and thus enabled to bring me to my current level of awareness. I regret that I did not undergo proper therapy together with my parents during the years I was away at Hyde. It might have spared me the subsequent decline not only in my mental health but also in my relations with my parents.
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I also came from an abusive home situation.  And I think my consequent mindset primed me to accept as "normal" the humiliation, degradation, and cruelty that I later experienced at Hyde.

However, regardless of what I feel about how my parents treated me, I do also believe that they did love me.  They probably felt that they were doing their best, compared to how they were brought up.  

Not so with Hyde!   It is not exactly a loving and healing place!  It has taken me decades to come to terms with that, and perhaps, on some level, I may never fully get over the capricious viciousness that was sometimes doled out.

Anonymous:
I wrote the post about child abuse to which you responded. For reference, I'll identify myself as Mike.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that child abuse was status quo at Hyde. There were abusers and there were nonabusers. The former I shunned and the latter, teachers like Bud Warren, Sumner Hawley, and Ed Legg, I respected. I guess this distinction was the beginning of my education in child abuse, when I first realized there existed an alternative to it.

Like you, I witnessed my share of child abuse at Hyde, and determined early on not to be a victim of it. No doubt, this strongly conditioned my behavior in ways that did not serve Hyde's objectives. For me, it meant avoiding certain staff members and resisting situations of vulnerability.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I wrote the post about child abuse to which you responded. For reference, I'll identify myself as Mike.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that child abuse was status quo at Hyde. There were abusers and there were nonabusers. The former I shunned and the latter, teachers like Bud Warren, Sumner Hawley, and Ed Legg, I respected. I guess this distinction was the beginning of my education in child abuse, when I first realized there existed an alternative to it.

Like you, I witnessed my share of child abuse at Hyde, and determined early on not to be a victim of it. No doubt, this strongly conditioned my behavior in ways that did not serve Hyde's objectives. For me, it meant avoiding certain staff members and resisting situations of vulnerability.
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Mike,

  Do you remember how odd hyde was back then?  Do you remember the "Book"?   Do you remember "National Commitment?"
I remember that the "Book" was going to change America.

emil nightrate

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