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« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2006, 09:08:00 PM »
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"It's not the school district's fault. I know I had to clear comprehensive criminal background checks before I became a teacher...  including DUI. The responsible party is the perp."


That is common sense.

In US law the deep pocket will pay.

The school district will be found negligent
in their supervision of nymphomaniac hot blonde teachers.
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« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2006, 09:09:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-23 16:36:00, Anonymous wrote:


"This woman molested a kid, and was sentenced to 3 years house arrest? Now who wouldn't like to sit home for 3 years and not work?"




Me"


Another public library LOL ... thanks!
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« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2006, 10:13:00 PM »
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In US law the deep pocket will pay.


The deep pockets of the school district? I know... the education system is such a cash cow in this country.

Unless they end up garnishing the wages of the fucking BMW driving beaurocrats on the totally useless, superfluous school board, I don't think they will be getting much money.
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« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2006, 11:02:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-23 18:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-03-23 15:29:00, Anonymous wrote:


"It's not the school district's fault. I know I had to clear comprehensive criminal background checks before I became a teacher...  including DUI. The responsible party is the perp."




That is common sense.



In US law the deep pocket will pay.



The school district will be found negligent

in their supervision of nymphomaniac hot blonde teachers."


Hahaha!! How's the weather under that rock??

I guess all the art and music programs are getting cut from schools nationwide because the school systems have so much surplus money. I guess teachers are having their health benefits slashed because of those deep pockets.

Are you the same person who said they wouldn't mind getting locked in their house for 3 years? I wouldn't be surprised.
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« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2006, 11:47:00 PM »
Cities and counties pay out lots of money in
lost lawsuits. Courts don't give a shit if
some budget is lean. The larger organization
will pay.
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« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2006, 01:43:00 AM »
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On 2006-03-23 20:47:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Cities and counties pay out lots of money in

lost lawsuits. Courts don't give a shit if

some budget is lean. The larger organization

will pay. "


Regardless, their pockets aren't deep, which I do believe was your original point.
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« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2006, 11:01:00 AM »
Oh, OK, now I know what you mean. We agree.
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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2006, 12:39:00 PM »
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Hahaha!! How's the weather under that rock??



I guess all the art and music programs are getting cut from schools nationwide because the school systems have so much surplus money. I guess teachers are having their health benefits slashed because of those deep pockets.



Are you the same person who said they wouldn't mind getting locked in their house for 3 years? I wouldn't be surprised. "

Oh, the money is there! It's just not going to the teachers or any other helpful personnel.

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National education budget $69.4 billion (2006)
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The United States Department of Education released a statement recently detailing the average cost per pupil in public and private schools and found that the average public school cost was approximatly USD$7,200 per student while the average private school cost per pupil was just USD$3,500. The Department of Education also stated that less than 25% of private schools are considered "elite", costing more than $10,000 a year. In contrast, private schools in East Asia average around USD$1,400 per year.


From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_ ... ted_States

The trouble is that administration personnel outnumber teachers. Schooling is not about education anyway. It's about compliance. Why in the hell do you think they've established police substations on damned near campus in the country? What's with the metal detectors and barbed wire fences?

Check out John Taylor Gatto's The Underground History of American Education
http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/underground/toc1.htm

Since the State and Fed only contribute about 10% to the typical public school budget, I think they should only have about 10% of the vote in how we run our schools. Better still! Quit sending them
%50 of our income in the first place and tell them to pound sand next time they come offering to "help" us.

Either cocaine and marijuana are terribly dangerous substances, and breaking the law by consuming them is a major offense that should be severely punished, or these are minor, personal matters that do not really count in the big picture of a man's life. If the latter is the case, then the rationale for a bloody, costly and futile war against drugs simply disappears.
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2006, 11:26:00 AM »
diabetics have the responsibility for taking insulin taking blood tests and eating properly.  mood swingers should develop this too
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« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2006, 01:50:00 PM »
Mental illness is used as an excuse by the legal defense team all the time.

While it is true that mania makes you hornier than usual, it is not true that the person with mania has no control over their behavior.

Also, there is a very wide spectrum of the intensity of mood episodes that someone with bipolar disorder (manic depression) - and different categories of the illness as well.  Bipolar I includes extreme mood swings.  But those swings might be one in a few years or daily.  The frequency of swings depends on the case too.  Bipolar II, which is what I have, has small mood swings, usually triggered by something like new job anxiety or lack of sleep over several days.

So I agree with posters who feel that this teacher, if she does indeed have bipolar disorder, really has two things going on.  One is being horny brought about by the mania.  The other is poor judgement.  The two are completely different problems.

To not hire a teacher because you find out they have "bipolar" is discrimination, because if that teacher has a light case, it may actually work to their advantage since there seems to be a link between bipolar and creativity.  So one teacher might not be appropriate if they have extreme mood swings to be a teacher.  While another might be able to be teacher of the year.

http://www.bipolarworld.net/Bipolar%20D ... /art14.htm

Take a look at that list of famous bipolars.  At the bottom of the page you have to click to go to the next page, there are 4 or 5 pages.

Then ask yourself if these people might have made great teachers.  Larry Flint, Emenem, and Ozzy Osborne?  Most likely not.  But Larry King (not listed), Jane Pauley, and Mike Wallace?  I think so.  So it really just depends on the person.
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« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2006, 02:41:00 PM »
I agree with everything you said except
dismissing promiscuity and poor judgement.

If these weren't real problems then they
would not be part of the syndrome.

I think you may be mixing up the current
laws, and public decision, that we are
always responsible for our actions, regardless
of our mental illness.

The only way to not be responsible by law,
is NGI, or not guilty by reason of insanity.

Otherwise all of us that went broke spending
money recklessly, lost jobs, irritated people,
fucked up relationships, fucked anything that
moved, etc. are influenced by the illness,
but nonetheless responsible for our actions.

I am glad she is getting therapy rather than
jail.

Our jails just make criminal our of the incarcerated.

The recidivism rate is so bad that it is obviously a failed ... correctional system.

Therapy would do more to correct, or control
her Bipolar Disorder and impusle control that
sitting in a cell for five years.
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« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2006, 02:43:00 PM »
PAGE ONE

No Way Out Trapped by Rules, The Mentally Ill Languish in Prison

For Such Felons, Parole Is Rare, Recidivism Is Probable; Lack of State Hospitals

'It Scares the Hell Out of Me'

By GARY FIELDS
May 3, 2006; Page A1

LEXINGTON, Okla. -- Jesse James, a mentally ill prisoner, squinted into the gleaming sunlight toward the six-story guard station towering over Joseph Harp Correctional Center.

"Kojack is up there in that tower right now, listening," said Mr. James, looking up. "He's got a rifle too. He wants me dead."
[Jesse James]

Kojack isn't "Kojak" of the famous TV series. Mr. James, 59 years old, who is bipolar, paranoid and schizophrenic, believes that a medical aide called Kojack -- spelled with a "c," he insists -- has been stalking him for decades and has implanted a listening device in his prostate.

Nearly 16 years after robbing a convenience store, Mr. James has been rejected for parole three times. Because his sentence tops 100 years, parole is his only path out of prison. At his next hearing in December 2007, he will likely be rejected again. He has a history of prison-rule violations, stemming largely from his illness, and even if his record were clean, there are few qualified institutions to take him in. That alone would be grounds to deny his application.

For years American prisons have been grappling with a surge in the ranks of mentally ill prisoners, caused in part by the shuttering of state-run mental-health facilities a generation ago. The Joseph Harp prison spotlights an often-overlooked aspect of that problem: how it has become self-perpetuating. Once imprisoned, mentally ill inmates are rarely paroled. Some "max out" their sentence, serving at least 85% of their term, and are released. With nowhere to go, and with a recidivism rate higher than that of the general prison population, they often end up back where they started.

Of the mentally ill prisoners housed at Joe Harp, as it is known, none are likely to be paroled, says James Keithley, the prison's psychologist and clinical coordinator. And then, if a violent inmate completes his sentence and is discharged, "Where do I send him? Mama don't want him," Dr. Keithley says. "If they act up here, you know what will happen if they're released. It scares the hell out of me."

In recent years, Oklahoma has had a dramatic increase in mentally ill prisoners, in part because it only recently shuttered state-run, mental-health facilities. According to the state, the number of inmates on psychiatric medications more than tripled between 1998 and 2005 to 4,017. The system's budget for such medication climbed even faster, growing from $154,000 a year to more than $2 million, in part because of the growing number of medications available. By comparison, the overall prison population rose 14% to 23,205.

The National Alliance on Mental Illness estimates there are 300,000 people suffering from mental illness in state and federal prisons, compared with 70,000 in state psychiatric facilities. "Our jails and prisons are our largest mental-health facilities now," says U.S. Sen. Mike DeWine, a Republican from Ohio who has co-authored bills to create federal programs to improve services for mentally ill inmates.
[James Keithley]

Dr. Keithley, 50, has worked in the prison world since 1983, leaving once for several years to get his Ph.D. His voice is low and soothing, an asset when trying to coax information out of reticent patients. When he receives an emergency call to assess an inmate threatening nurses and doctors at a county hospital an hour away, he rearranges his schedule so he can drive there. "There's no such thing as a normal day here," he says.

For male prisoners in the state, Joe Harp is the primary facility providing mental-health care. About 440 of the prison's 1,100 inmates are on psychiatric medication. Officials here estimate that medication in total costs $30,000 a month.

The guard tower, the tallest structure for miles around excepting the water tower of a nearby prison, looks down on scores of inmates standing in line for their evening medication. It takes more than two hours for the last inmate in the line to make his way to the infirmary.

Among those are about 100 inmates from the intermediate unit, one of two mental-health sections at Joe Harp. Prisoners there have been stabilized to some degree and are temporarily allowed out of their unit.

Even these inmates can be unpredictable. Last year, one tried to commit suicide by tying an electrical cord around his neck and jumping from the second tier. Misjudging the distance and length of cord required, he hit the deck of the first floor. As the lone officer on duty ran to the area, the inmate limped back upstairs and jumped again. He misjudged the distance once more and broke his foot. Another time an inmate set a fire in his cell and took the responding officer hostage, periodically slashing him with a blade from a disposable razor.

Prison Within a Prison

The most unstable inmates are housed in "Fantasy Island," the nickname for the acute-care unit. Surrounded by a 12-foot fence, it's a prison within a prison for 108. The walls, made of unbreakable glass, allow staff to see most of the unit at a glance. There is a four-point restraint table where uncontrollable inmates can be tied down until they're calm.

With temperatures in the teens one day earlier this year, few inmates ventured outside. Many milled around a recreation area in the zombie-like gait of the heavily medicated. Others, visibly agitated, paced back and forth and stared through the glass.

Those considered too unpredictable and uncontrollable ever to be free are locked behind thick doors with small windows. Screams, moans and chanting are normal. The noise level rises as the sun goes down and before the medication kicks in. One inmate believes he is in a prisoner of war camp in Vietnam while another screams that communists are taking over the facility. He believes two of the officers on the unit are Nikita Khrushchev and Fidel Castro.

A couple of years ago, one resident of the acute-care unit sculpted figurines out of his feces. Another feigned a catatonic episode and nearly bit off the tip of an officer's nose. Earlier this year, officers had to forcibly remove and shower an inmate who refused to clean himself.

The prisoners in "Fantasy Island," almost never get paroled. Behind each decision is a hard question: Should the prison records of the mentally ill be treated like those of any other inmate?

"The [parole] board here in Oklahoma is conservative towards these types of issues and unfortunately they judge the mentally ill like they judge the rest of the inmates in the system," says J.D. Daniels, deputy director of the Oklahoma Pardon and Parole Board. The board looks at the initial crime, the overall institutional record -- which, in the case of the mentally ill, is often poor -- and whether the inmate has anywhere to go if released.

Changing Ideas

Many states, responding to budget pressures and changing ideas about how to treat mental disorders, closed their residential mental institutions. Oklahoma was one of the last. It shuttered Western State Hospital in Fort Supply in 1997 and turned over the inpatient psychiatric hospital at Eastern State Hospital in Vinita to the Department of Corrections, a process completed in 2001.

The idea was that community agencies would take over treating and monitoring these patients but in almost all cases they haven't picked up the slack. The number of long-term, non-criminal psychiatric patients housed in Oklahoma's state facilities is about 200, a fraction of the 1,300 they held in the 1980s, according to the state's department of mental health. Griffin Memorial, the remaining state hospital, houses about 162 of those but generally only for two weeks at a time until patients are judged stable enough to be released into the community.

There are private and community facilities where families can pay to have a patient placed, but most are not for the indigent. These organizations are also reluctant to take in people released from prison with mental problems, Dr. Keithley said.

Jesus House, which helps people who are homeless and mentally ill, is one of the few shelters in Oklahoma City that takes in ex-felons. The facility has 70 beds and usually has one or two ex-felons among the residents, says Executive Director Jan Mercer. "I could fill up another couple hundred beds if I had them," she says.

Corrections and mental-health officials are trying to ease the situation by developing new programs, such as mental-health courts that would steer some mentally ill defendants away from prison.

In his prison photos, Mr. James, the Joe Harp inmate, looks like a 1920s gangster. In person, he is a small, thin man with weather-beaten features. A native of southern Oklahoma, just north of the Texas border, he committed a raft of burglaries in the 1970s and, not yet diagnosed, spent until 1990 in Texas prisons.

On Aug. 16, 1991, he went into a Colbert, Okla., convenience store shortly after 8 p.m. and pulled a knife on the clerk. He fled on foot through the back door with checks and cash from the register. A state trooper caught him a few minutes later less than a mile away trying to hide in some weeds. Drunk, he confessed immediately. He wanted to flee his nemesis -- Kojack -- he says now.

Since then, Mr. James has spent time at several facilities in the prison system where he often violated behavioral rules. Infractions range from smuggling contraband such as cigarettes to disruptive behavior and disobedience. He also has several attempted escapes on record. Once he tried to hop the 12-foot fence surrounding the acute-care unit. The guard tower has authority to shoot but the officer that day recognized Mr. James and stopped. "He wasn't trying to escape," Dr. Keithley explains. "He was trying to get away from Kojack." Mr. James's most recent infractions include refusing to provide a urine sample. Last June, he was caught smoking -- tea. Smoking of any kind is banned.

All this weighs heavily against his chances of parole. His file reads: "There's no place for him in the community. The defendant's mental illness compounds the defendant's unpredictably causing him to be a great threat to society."

In conversation, Mr. James is lucid as he talks about living outside on his own. He gets agitated, however, when talking about Kojack. He says he has lost weight because he can't sleep. Kojack has "been bugging the hell out of me. He's taken my life from me."

Warden Mike Addison says Mr. James would have to be paroled to a mental-health unit, and since there aren't any government-run places like that available, "he'll stay here with us. He'll be with us the rest of his life."

Michael Bruton is a mentally ill prisoner who has been paroled a few times before winding up back in jail again. His crimes have been minor -- usually involving worthless or stolen checks totaling no more than $800 -- and his behavior in prison often exemplary. In the past, he lived with relatives or in state mental institutions.

The fifth of seven children, Mr. Bruton left school without graduating in 1972 and enlisted in the Army. There, he had a nervous breakdown, according to Mr. Bruton and his prison records.

As he was being discharged, military doctors suggested he take Thorazine and Cogentin, two drugs that help control schizophrenia and the tremors that come on when he gets nervous. It was the first time any medication had been suggested for him. For years after, he resisted the idea. "I used to be ashamed to take medication because they teased you," he says, referring to people in general. "They'd say you're doing the Thorazine shuffle."

Instead, Mr. Bruton turned to alcohol and drugs. His first crime came in April 1976. Then 20, he was living in El Reno, Okla., when he wrote a $20 check to a crafts store in town even though he didn't have a bank account. He wrote another check for $40 to a grocery store and a third for $21.50 to another business.

Over the years he would go back to jail or prison for infractions from setting his cell on fire to stealing $15 worth of gas from an El Reno Wag-A-Bag grocery store. He stole a Wizard sewing machine from a family member.

With his spotless, wrinkle-free uniform, neatly trimmed goatee and amiable manner, Mr. Bruton is well liked here. He greets people as an old friend and shakes hands vigorously.

Mr. Bruton's smile vanishes, though, when he talks about his imaginary gunfights. On many mornings, including that day, after Mr. Bruton makes his bed and heads to his job picking up trash in the yard, he imagines he is a gunfighter, say prison officials. With knees bent and hands hovering over a make-believe holster on his hips, Mr. Bruton stares at his adversary, usually one of the guards. Then, as prison officials describe it, he laughs hysterically before sobbing uncontrollably.

Asked about the incidents, the 6-foot-4 inmate, with braids dangling from his scalp, stares menacingly before blurting out: "What are you talking about? I don't do that...I'm not Quick Draw McGraw."

Mr. Bruton, 50, has been in jail since 2000 on a 10-year term for using a stolen credit card. He is scheduled for a parole hearing in May 2007 but he likely won't get out because of his lengthy, albeit non-violent, record as well as his mental-health status. Even if he crosses those two hurdles, he doesn't have any place to go. His mother, with whom he used to live, suffers from schizophrenia and is in a nursing home.

Dr. Keithley says he would rather Mr. Bruton be paroled and put on supervision than be allowed to finish his sentence and simply dissolve into the outside population. "The parole board doesn't necessarily see it that way," the doctor says. "He deserves to have a better life than being crazy."

Maurice Smith is one of the prisoners who most worries Dr. Keithley. Mr. Smith, who is schizophrenic, has been at Joe Harp on a drug-possession charge since June 2004 and has been in and out of prison since 1989. At the age of 16, he was convicted in an adult court for dropping a rock on a passing car from a train trestle. His other crimes included car burglaries to fund a drug habit.

Mr. Smith has been eligible for parole but was passed over. In September, though, he will be released after completing his sentence.

His record doesn't suggest he's a violent man, but he talks about how he has threatened his mother with a knife when she hasn't given him money. He also gouges himself with his fingernails, according to prison records. At 5 feet 9 inches and less than 130 pounds, he is a small man and looks older than his 33 years. He says his fear is to be moved into the general prison population where he couldn't protect himself from stronger inmates. "I can't fight," he says.

"When the day comes for him to be released, we've got to let him out," Dr. Keithley says, sighing and shaking his head. The doctor says he'll refer Mr. Smith to whatever treatment is available in Tulsa and will warn the man's mother that he may be violent. He also plans to introduce Mr. Smith to the Program for Assertive Community Treatment, a pilot program that tries to monitor ex-offenders.

The prison will discharge Mr. Smith with two weeks of medication that Mr. Smith says he won't take, because a "genie in my rectum" told him he doesn't need it. He says he has heard the genie for as long as he can remember. Throughout his life, he says, he has used drugs and alcohol to quiet the voice.

Having served his time, Mr. Smith won't be under court supervision. "I won't have to take any drug tests," he says. Asked why that's important, he answers bluntly: "Because I want to do drugs. I like crack and marijuana and drinking."

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« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2006, 06:59:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-23 16:36:00, Anonymous wrote:


"This woman molested a kid, and was sentenced to 3 years house arrest? Now who wouldn't like to sit home for 3 years and not work?"




You lazy fucker. Who the fuck would wanna be stuck at their house for 3 years? Guess we have a little insight into YOUR social life. "


Apparenly being stuck at home under house arrest didn't stop her from texting messages to the boy and him personal dance movies.

At this point, any doubts you might have about her predatory nature kind of have to be looked at bit.  

What kind of message does this send to the kids -that girls are worth protecting but boys are not?  Hardly fair.
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« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2006, 08:13:00 PM »
Well 6 years ago I was fully manic for one week, that is when I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder for the first time.  Bipolar I, which is the stronger category.  Prior, I did have a few bouts with depression, but I didn't take anti depressants for more than a year.

I didn't sexually assault anyone during that extreme manic phase, let alone a child.  I didn't go out trying to cheat on my wife.  My wife did report the best sex she ever had that week.

And in the years since that first extreme event, I've been more of a light Bipolar II level - and yes I have fantasies of getting together with local college age girls and what not, but I don't act on them.  I have never cheated on my wife.  If I looked like Tom Cruise I probably would have had more opportunities to do so.  However, there is one very important point here - even if I did take flirtation up a notch to actually cheated on my wife, it would not be with a minor.

Therefore, bipolar disorder and pedophilia are not linked.  Show me the research and statistics showing a linkage.  This woman has broken the law and is a pedophile in addition to having manic episodes which make her hornier than usual.  Sure behavior modification psychotherapy will hopefully change her behavior, yet she needs to go to jail to face the same consequence any convicted pedophile faces, or she'll probably do it again but just under the radar screen the next time.

Again, if you look at the long list of famous bipolars, you'll note that they are not pedophiles.  So this pedophile is using the excuse of bipolar for her get out of jail free card, leaving the rest of us bipolars with even more stigma and discrimination than we had before.

When I was fully manic, I felt on the same level as Jesus, I was not going around panting at sexy women.
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« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2006, 09:07:00 PM »
I've done some research on the Internet and found some clarification of a few things.

1. http://bipolar.about.com seems to think that sexual addiction can happen with people with bipolar.  I'm not sure if there is data to support that.  But it's possible.

2. Pedophilia has 2 different definitions in the world, one is pre-puberty children (elementary school) and the other includes adolescents (high school) - while middle school is kind of a grey area.  In the US, we include pedophilia to include consentual sex between adults and adolescents as well as pre-puberty children.  But in most countries this is not the case.  If you look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia you'll see the age of consent is the most conservative in the US.  In Canada, it is 14.  In the US, 18 in many cases but not all as some states are less.  (There are some conditions for some states or countries depending on how many years older the older person or adult is.)  It looks to me that 14 is the most common age of consent, followed by 16.

So if LaFave was in another country, she would not have committed a crime.

I think biology can explain why older men are attracted to younger women.  As women get older, they get less and less fertile, and if you look at the chart of birth defects to age of a woman, younger women have less birth defects of babies as well.  It makes biological sense for a man to be attracted to younger women.

Morally and due to the fact that we are not apes, we are human beings, we should know that high school students are still children in terms of their psychological growth, and that as such they are off limits.

While a man (or woman) who wants to do it with an elementary school aged child is clearly deviant and that behavior can't be explained by biology = a true pedophile.
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